Torricelli on the Republican National Convention

I thought he was dead on in everything he wrote.

But then again, Wiel would have had to read the piece to notice that.

Are you suggesting the catastrophic, unprecedented national deficit is the fault of anyone other than the Bush Administration and its enablers in the Republican controlled Congress of 2001-2007?? Are you going to say the national debt sprung up on Inauguration Day 2007?

Are you saying we should try to drill aimlessly for oil in our own country instead of investing in alternative forms of energy that would create jobs, help end our dependence on oil and shift the balance of power in the world in our favor??

Are you saying that hockey mom, PTA chair Sarah Palin is, gulp, ready to handle the most complicated job in human history?

Let's not forget that Obama and McCain have the exact same amount of executive experience, and then I'll take the one that dreams big for the future over the one stuck in the past.

You're the kind of person that would have voted against Lincoln or Kennedy. We're all lucky that you didn't get the chance to.

Please crawl back in your hole. Torricelli should be tried for treason - Hey Bob, remember the "Torricelli Priciple" and remember how you outed an undercover CIA agent that led to his and countless other deaths of US agents...

And you of all people to challenge McCain over national security - because of you and the Clintonistas we had 911. So Bob how do you sleep at night with the blood of thousands or Amercians on your hands?

JOM

Vote for McCain and The Gilf

"The Torch" must think that everyone has historical amnesia.  I, for one, do not. Not too long ago disgraced former-senator Torricelli was complicit in circumventing our election laws.  Mr. Torricelli collaborated in using the state Supreme Court to place "The Lout" on the ballot.  The ole' Torricelli/Lautenberg switch-eroo was a clear violation of the law.  

Mr. Torricelli, were you putting 'America First' during your illegal switch?

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One word best encapsulates for me the flippantly snide, self-impressed and mocking tone of the Republican Convention that I thought was a national embarrassment: schoolyard. Palin just was doing what she was told and at least she did it with flair (dangerous as that makes her), but Giuliani should be ashamed. I often feel the same about some of the uncivilly vitriolic and just childish posts here. And I’m embarrassed to come play in your ballpark, but I’m amused enough to mention that I have enough of a command of English to suggest with confidence that nobody here who has criticized Torricelli’s writing has a grammatical leg to stand on.

Taxes: Dems - Raise 'em, Repubs - lower 'em.

Energy: Dems - enlist the governement to fund alternatives, No Nukes, No Drilling. Repub: Incentives to private sector to find alternatives, All of the above approach and use drilling as a bridge, and incorporate Nuke, Wind, Solar, Alt Fuels, Geo-Thermic, etc. the long term solution.

Defense: Dems - Cut Military and Intell (Be like Bill, cut it 52%), negotiate without preconditions. Repubs- strong military, negotiate from position of stregnth.

I could go on, but I think the point has been made. Vote McCain/Palin for a secure and economically stable nation.

I like McCain and still might vote his way. But Torch brought up multiple points that a lot of swing voters need addressing--to call his ruminations "a joke" is fatuous.

In the bigger picture, context does matter: Torch criticizing other elected leaders is certainly questionable. But bashing Torricelli's time in office doesn't recognize his valid points.

Please refrain from posting links to a lame website: commercializing should be banned.

I admire your tolerance. I'm just confused though, does he have more than one wife? I can't tell from your grammar.

I believe that Obama's economic plan includes tax cuts for 95% of America, repealing the Bush tax cuts, eliminating income taxes for seniors making less than $50,000, giving Americans $1,000 energy rebate checks, and ending tax breaks for companies that send jobs overseas.

I think the numbers are pretty clear: 2.78% annual growth of real GNP under Democratic presidents, only 1.64% under Republicans.

What you call Socialism, I, and everyone else who can read, calls growth.

So, I'll say it again, I'll take growth. You just stick to things you know, like tolerance.

Independent OC:
Don't dig in too deep based on GNP during which party is in office. It is not a realistic or sound way to judge. You cannot include times of major wars in any reasonable comparison. Additionally, remember that Reagan took over a failing economy from Carter (huge inflation, unemployment, interest rates), Clinton took over a good economy (and then through gutting the military and the wealth created through the tech sector) and rode the benefits of the Reagan/Bush tax cuts to a somewhat healthy economy, but then Bush took over an economy with a surplus but a negative GDP from Clinton, but through tax cuts was able to get it going again. If not for war costs, and stupid spending by him, dems in congress, and big spending repubs, have not allowed it to reach what it otherwise would have. just remember, those top 5% of tax payers pay something like 65% of federal taxes. The whole of the bottom 50% pay only 3% of fed taxes.

You are too kind "thetotonator" - It can easily be asserted (and I often do) that Clinton be held directly accountable for 9/11. He gutted the military ( BY 52%) and intel services, Leading to a void in how we could or should respond to terrorism, but it helped create (along with Reagan tax cuts and the short-term tech wealth creation) the surplus he and his fans love to throw up at every opportunity, without mentioning a negative .4 GDP when handing the Presidency to Bush. Clinton is not only the most over-rated President in modern times, but is not held accountable for what he did to leave our country open to attacks during and after his term.

Rudy understands conservative values (even though social conservatives have their reservations) and can express them very clearly. He effectively pointed out not only Obama's lack of understanding of important issues (like trusting the UN, with Russia's veto and all) but also the simple fact that Obama brings a few years as a community organizer (whatever that is), years as a state senator with no accomplishments, and 18 months as a US senator (again without accomplishments) before he started to run for President. My love of Rudy aside, Sarah's line was my favorite: "Some use change for the benefit of their career, others use their career for the benefit of change" (or something close to that).

Do u think if mr Toricelli was not such a crook and liar when he held office, his words might mean more.