McCain must feel he is being tortured again each time he has to stand near those two buffoons.

He supports 95% of what they have done. Its very unfortunate the way McCain has positioned himself. He wanted to be President so he bent all of his beliefs that made him inspiring in 2000. He was a respectable man in those days-and he was a bit of a maverick. While I still would have voted for Gore in 2000-McCain would have made me think twice back then. He loves Bush Cheney, and that is unfortunate. He made the bed however, he wanted the fringes of the right to support him and he's done it.

To compare 30 seconds of waterboarding on 3 known terrorists during questioning to what McCain endured for 5 1/2 years is sheer stupidity, particularly when the information gained when Khalid Sheq Muhammed was waterboarded may have thwarted another attack.

Come on, Tornoe. You can do better.

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- Johnny Ramone

I don't know where to begin. I used to love these cartoons...

http://blog.savejersey.com/2008/08/22/rob-tornoe-on-torture.aspx

I don't know where to begin. I used to love these cartoons...

http://blog.savejersey.com/2008/08/22/rob-tornoe-on-torture.aspx

Uh... about 3 months late with the punchline?

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/26/us/politics/26giuliani.html?ref=politics

And I quote...

>>>>>>>>"

October 26, 2007

McCain Rebukes Giuliani on Waterboarding Remark

By MICHAEL COOPER and MARC SANTORA

Rudolph W. Giuliani’s statement on Wednesday that he was uncertain whether waterboarding, a simulated drowning technique, was torture drew a sharp rebuke yesterday from Senator John McCain, who said that his failure to call it torture reflected his inexperience.

“All I can say is that it was used in the Spanish Inquisition, it was used in Pol Pot’s genocide in Cambodia, and there are reports that it is being used against Buddhist monks today,” Mr. McCain, who spent more than five years in a North Vietnamese prison camp, said in a telephone interview.

Of presidential candidates like Mr. Giuliani, who say that they are unsure whether waterboarding is torture, Mr. McCain said: “They should know what it is. It is not a complicated procedure. It is torture.”<<<<<

Now, that Mccain has won the nomination he's singing a different tune.

It is said that power corrupts.  Clearly McCain's lust for power has corrupted him.

This is a man who knows what torture is first hand; he knows that it can make you say anything.   He said what the torturers wanted him to say and he signed what they wanted him to sign.

For John McCain to retreat on his condemnation of torture is not only a total disqualifier for him to be president; but it's a sad/tragic commentary on his own inner state.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/02/16/mccain_drops_the_t...

Boston Globe JOHN MCCAIN this week had a choice between his principles and propping up a failed president. He chose the latter. Derrick. Z. Jackson February 16, 2008 --> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Derrick. Z. Jackson

McCain drops the torture ball

JOHN MCCAIN this week had a choice between his principles and propping up a failed president. He chose the latter.

The Senate joined the House in passing an intelligence bill that would ban the CIA from using waterboarding as an interrogation tactic. The CIA would have to abide by the Army Field Manual, which also prohibits beatings, electric or temperature shocks, forced nudity, mock executions, and the use of dogs. Some of those abusive techniques were on global display in the torture photos from Abu Ghraib.

McCain, a Vietnam prisoner of war, has long condemned waterboarding as torture, making him more sensitive than President Bush on an issue that stained America's image. But the Arizona senator and virtual Republican nominee to replace Bush voted against the bill. Bush says he will veto the measure.

McCain said that while he remains opposed to waterboarding, "We always supported allowing the CIA to use extra measures."

Extra measures? Then what are rules for?<<<<<<<<

From Frederick Douglass

If there is no struggle there is no progress......Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will.