NJ GOP: WHAT IS GOING ON?

By Richard J. LaRossa | November 23rd, 2009 - 4:21pm
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Last Monday, NJN’s Zachary Fink reported that New Jersey was close to passing same sex marriage because 4 members of the Republican Senate minority were going to vote in favor of it.  All I can ask is why? 

Basically, three departing Democrats want to force same-sex marriage on New Jersey as their parting legacy.  They are outgoing Governor Jon Corzine, outgoing Senate President Dick Codey, and outgoing Assembly Speaker Joe Roberts.  They don’t have the votes to do it, so these so-called Republicans have volunteered to get it done for them.  Those members mentioned by Zachary Fink were Bill Baroni, Jennifer Beck, Kip Bateman, and Sean Kean.   

I could see if these Republican Senators had, in their many campaigns for public office, run on platforms that honestly supported same-sex marriage, but of course, they haven’t.  They all have told voters and the media that they either opposed same-sex marriage or supported allowing the people of New Jersey to vote on it. 

What they’re doing doesn’t make any political sense, because it is going to cause them to get primaries, while it lets vulnerable Democrats off the hook.  So Tom Kean Jr. will have to raise hundreds of thousands of dollars for June 2011, so that Steve Sweeney doesn’t have to raise it in November 2011. 

Since last Monday, one of these Senators has corrected NJN’s report and has confirmed to voters and the media that he will be a NO vote.  That man is Kip Bateman.  Senator Beck told the media that she is still undecided, while Senators Baroni and Sean Kean, according to reports, didn’t return reporters’ calls. 

I’m surprised at Sean Kean, because just one month ago, he very clearly told representatives of the Catholic Church (both clergy and lay people) that he was a NO vote.  To be honest, the reporting has been all over the place on this issue. 

Could it be because the press is getting conflicting information from multiple sources about both the issue and who is on or off the bill?  If so, what game is being played and what is to be gained by disseminating conflicting or incorrect information? 

Regardless, why are there three remaining Senators doing this?  Could it have anything to do with pressure from a number of rich Republican donors of the cosmopolitan set, who support same-sex marriage?  And, why hasn’t Senate Republican Leader Tom Kean Jr. put his house in order? 

Kean is on the record as opposing same-sex marriage and supporting a constitutional amendment to affirm traditional marriage. Where is Governor Elect Chris Christie?  The Governor-Elect ran as someone opposed to same-sex marriage and he defeated an incumbent who supported same-sex marriage.  We should let the people decide this issue – not three outgoing Democrats who have clearly reached their “sell-by” dates. 

Let the new Legislature debate this, come up with language that takes into account the views of both sides, place it on the ballot for November 2010, and let the voters make their choice to either re-affirm traditional marriage, or make same-sex marriage legal in New Jersey. The GOP confusion on this issue is just another indication of why the New Jersey Republican State Committee needs to endorse the RNC platform drafted by representatives from all 50 states and then approved by elected delegates representing Republicans from every congressional district in America. 

Senator Bill Baroni was a leader of the NJ delegation to the RNC Convention.  He was John McCain’s man in New Jersey and he had to approve the two New Jersey delegates who helped draft the RNC platform: Assemblywoman Alison McHose and Atlantic GOP Chairman Keith Davis.  The RNC platform was adopted with the full agreement and compliance of his presidential candidate.  There has been an ongoing battle between conservative Republicans and GOP state chair Jay Webber as to the adoption the RNC Platform. 

On the subject of same-sex marriage, the RNC Platform states the following: “Because our children’s future is best preserved within the traditional understanding of marriage, we call for a constitutional amendment that fully protects marriage as a union of a man and a woman, so that Judges cannot make other arrangements equivalent to it. In the absence of a national amendment, we support the right of the people of the various states to affirm traditional marriage through state initiatives.” 

The NJGOP, under the direction of Jay Webber has refused to adopt this statement as well as any of the principles stated in the RNC Platform.  In fact, they are about to develop and attempt to adopt their own platform and throw the RNC platform to the curb.  

Following is part of a resolution that they are going to attempt to adopt at their December 1, 2009 meeting:

WHEREAS, there is a need and a desire to set forth principles and ideas that will animate and guide the Republican Party in the State of New Jersey in this new era; and·       

WHEREAS, The New Jersey Republican State Committee is the sole Republican organization with state-wide representation and has official standing pursuant to law; and·       

WHEREAS, The New Jersey Republican State Committee is, therefore, by virtue of law, the sole official body endowed with sufficient authority to articulate principles for the Republican Party in the State; 

In place of the democratic process employed in the drafting and adoption of the RNC platform, they are going to appoint a committee to “prepare a written Statement of Principles that shall be recommended to the entire New Jersey Republican State Committee for consideration”. 

The current RNC platform carries much of the language first employed in the RNC platform of 1980 – Ronald Reagan’s platform.  Much of the stuff Jay Webber wants to take out was first put in there by President Reagan.  It’s time for Jay Webber to come to grips with reality. 

In his short tenure as GOP state chair, he has failed to adopt the RNC platform, failed to condemn the Corzine budget/tax hikes, failed to take a position on Cap & Trade, failed to take a position on ObamaCare, and failed to oppose same-sex marriage.   

If Chairman Webber would go back to acting like Assemblyman Webber he could turn this situation around and put it all to bed, once and for all.  But, he’s running out of time.

Webber has to clean up Wilson's mess.

I don't blame him for leaving the policy stuff to DeCroce and Kean (now, Christie). NJGOP has to become a fund raising and candidate recruitment agency. And, stop meddling in County organization issues.

Dick's Patronage Plumming

Jon Blackwell, The Trentonian, To the Loser Go the Spoils, January 1, 1998
"Less than 24-hours after lame duck legislator Dick LaRossa stepped down from office, his political pals have eased his search for a new job by giving him an $85,500-a-year patronage plum."
"LaRossa even cracked a joke about his salary hike coming just after voter rejection. 'Elected office is the only place where you make out financially if you lose your job,' he said."

Dick LaRossa...

"If Chairman Webber would go back to acting like Assemblyman Webber he could turn this situation around and put it all to bed, once and for all." And if hypocrite LaRossa was an elected official now, he would vote like he did when he was a senator (R-Public Unions). He would vote against tax cuts, vote for eminent domain laws that let government take private property and flip it to developers (sponsor the current law, in fact), vote for borrowing without voter approval, vote for union giveaways, vote for pension bonds, and then take his sell-out job from a governor he now routinely spews venom about. I'll listen to a real conservative any day of the week, but not this self-serving, loud-mouth, divisive idiot who is throwing a tantrum because he is not getting a patronge job. Listen to REAL conservatives who act along with the principles they claim to have, not this ping pong ball-picking convenient conservative clown.

NJ GOP Conservatives!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"There has been an ongoing battle between conservative Republicans..........."

 

What Republican Conservatives????????????????????

NJ only has RINOS..................................

What's the matter Dick

Gay marriage make you uncomfortable? Is it that Dick loves Dicks? A little Homo-phobe?

Better get used to it when your indicted for computer theft!!!

Rick, is being “stupid” again.

Rick accepts that Chris Christie traveled from being pro-choice to pro-life. He accepts that Alex DeCroce went from campaigning against both Jay Webber and Jersey Joe to sharing an office with them.

Wow Rick, even if what you said about LaRossa was true, people do change. Maybe you can’t deal with change. Maybe that’s the key to your problems with people. Here’s an idea: Get help.

Don’t attract too much attention to the Assembly caucus. They haven’t noticed yet how bad a job you have done in lining up votes to stop gay marriage. Maybe they’ll be running ads about Alex next. Here’s some advice: Be cool.

Hey BurlingtonGOP

Talking about that, didn't you work for that lobby firm that did the bridge commission?

Wasn't your boss... You married yet?

Digitup ????????

You are so off base.............you have no clue who I am and it's driving crazy isn't it Dick?

Here's a clue............you were better off staying with the "Lamplighters."

Dick is a Putz obsessed with gays

"Where is Governor Elect Chris Christie? The Governor-Elect ran as someone opposed to same-sex marriage and he defeated an incumbent who supported same-sex marriage."

Christie ran as someone opposed to high taxes and spending. That's what got him elected. The rest was window dressing to keep a few homophobic wingnuts from staying home and crying in their kool-aid on election day.

Nobody except idiots like you care about stupid platforms which are irrelevant. And it's even dumber after Christie won the election without a platform anyway. And with so many more important issues to consider, why pick on gays unless you have some sort of deep-rooted insecurity about your own sexuality and familial status.

At least Christie knows how to win statewide elections. You couldn't even make it passed the primary in 1996 and got squashed by another Dick named Zimmer. Then your own constituents got tired of your shtick and gave you the boot.

If Christie and the NJGOP paid attention to a loser like yourself they'd all be out of jobs and writing useless columns on political websites telling everybody else what to do.

christiegonewild.blogspot.com

Hear Hear

Floriofanclub, Very well said for a liberal. But it does raise some questions about Dick...........not married, no kids....could it be he does play hide the sausage once in awhile?

Not obsessed!

I’ve searched far and wide for at least one statement or reaction from Governor-Elect Chris Christie with regards to the gathering in Trenton yesterday. Of course, to no avail. If you spot something, please post it here.

What’s grotesquely obvious is his silence in coming out against the passage of a bill – a LAW that would forever put homosexuality on equal footing with heterosexuality, in the Garden State. His failure on this matter begs consent to the side that bussed in out-of-state activists, making their group larger than the pro-Marriage faction.

A man of conviction stands by his words. And as the saying goes, actions speak much louder than words. But in this case, I see neither action nor words from the governor-elect. How about a little of both, Mr. Christie? Or are you just going to allow it to pass, not applying the slightest amount of pressure on the three State Senators, since it’s really not on your watch?

Newsflash:

No one cares what the "official" platform of the NJGOP is or isn't. The only one who seems to is LaRossa and his ghost writer, Bill Winkler. Voters can decide for themselves whether their electeds represent them or not. Just like they did with LaRossa.

The one issue

that Christie was clear on was his opposition to homosexual marriage. EraseTheRINOs is correct that Christie should come out more forcibly on this issue.

FlorioFanClub is incorrect. Christie won because he was not Jon Corzine and did not pick Loretta Weinberg for his LG. However, not having a platform in place meant that the Assembly candidates could not run on a unifying message. Republicans avoided running as Republican. As result, Christie had no coattails and will have a difficult time pushing any agenda he might have.

Homphobes?

A, lets see, Baroni is the best kept closet secret in the legislature. Rick Wright's wife ran off with the former DOT Commissioner and now puts Obama signs on his lawn. Burlington GOP, aka Mark D, can't win an election to save his life inspite of committing over $700,000 to two losses in Dist. 1

The only seat won by Assembly republicans is by a consultant that LaRossa worked with in getting Mike Doherty past Marcia "the establishment" Karrow.

Given the fact that none of you have a clue, it would appear that you will continue to post on state time and NJGOP computers. Gotta love those IP addresses.

And why would anyone fixate on "dick" unless that is their basic proclivity in the first place?

That must be why the Somerset County Republican Chairman, Dale Florio has been retained by Garden State Equity to lobby for them. I guess a republican insider is needed to keep the gay vote in line in the republican caucus.

The Fan Club!

Let's see:

Burlingtongop:
GOPAnimal:
Imwithstupid:
Floriofanclub:

Amazing that all any of you ever post is the most assinine, abusive and derogatory commentary. But at least your consistent.
And I find it bordering on hysterical. You guys are really funny in trying to out do each other with the trash writing.

Clearly there must be a lot of penis envy among you and it is clear that Dick's intellect really bothers all of you.

I guess that the only thing you can do is trash the only conservative writer on this site. Oh, I can hear the howls now.

Yes, conservative is a mantle that, based on your comments, none of you can claim and based on reading the columnist, he clearly is intellectually superior and makes a whole lot more sense than a bunch of raving, jealous lunatics.

So until you can offer a construtive comment or alternative why don't you all enjoy your closet time and not bother to look for your shadow until there are signs of intelligent life coming from the NJGOP. Oops, there will never be signs of intelligent life from the NJGOP. It is the Rhino RINO club.

Oh and by the way, have fun sharing the closet with Baroni and Gusciora.

This Just In.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_pl996

Can't wait for the assholes to comment on this one!

how's the trophy bride dick?

hey didn't mr. family values also take a trip to Hawaii on the taxpayers dime right before he was spanked by the voters and thrown out of office? Is it recorded who he took the trip with?

No guts?

What’s wrong with noballsinBurlington, Fanovc*ck, and Hamiltonsausagehider? If you hate LaRossa so much, have the courage to just say these things to his face. Call him gay to his face. Insult his gal to his face. What’s wrong with you anonymous twerps? Have you left your balls in the glove compartment?

Yeah, I know LaRossa is Italian and if he gets his Sicilian up he’ll kick your asses – even at his age – but guys, if you are going to talk low you have to have the guts to back it up.

I think we should just order a round of butt plugs for the group of you and be done with it.

NJ GOP

We need a budget that addresses affordability today. It’s become far more difficult to live in New Jersey because of rising fuel and food prices, a weakening economy that reduces incomes and, most important, some of the highest taxes in the nation. Force factor

Lame Duck Dick Gets $$$ Patronage Plum

Jon Blackwell, The Trentonian, To the Loser Go the Spoils, January 1, 1998
"Less than 24-hours after lame duck legislator Dick LaRossa stepped down from office, his political pals have eased his search for a new job by giving him an $85,500-a-year patronage plum."
"LaRossa even cracked a joke about his salary hike coming just after voter rejection. 'Elected office is the only place where you make out financially if you lose your job,' he said."

r.ewing

How abuot a link to your blackwell claim so we can read the entire story. Put up or shut up. No proof? Ah, well then you made it up? How surprising.

Have any of you boneheads ever run for office? No? How surprising. It takes courage and determination to run.

It takes intelligence to serve. So what have you ever won asshole, a scratch off lottery ticket?

And the comment about his lady is attacking family. That is lower than whale shit. I guess you learned at the foot of the democrats you serve by continuing to lose elections unlike the ones LaRossa won. But if that is where you live, than that is about all anyone can expect.

Your point?

An old tradition. Just ask John Matheussen, Jim Hurley, Dick Kamin, Harriet Derman, Jeff Warsh, Peter Barnes, Joe Sinagra, Lou Romano, Nick Asselta, George Geist, Lee Laskin, Lee Solomon, Sean Dalton, and the list goes on and on and on.

What is your point? That we should ban former legislators from holding taxpayer-funded positions after they leave office? I’m for that.

That's it. No legislators or former legislators should be given positions on Christie's cabinet.

Let’s ban the lawyers among them from taxpayer-funded legal work too. Then we would really have a citizens’ legislature.

The scarey part of the

The scarey part of the national platform is the idiotic notion that children are better off only knowing traditional marriage. For years that is all they have known. Anyone care to review the divorce and abandonment rates?

Why don't they just say what they really believe. "We belive in equal protection, except as it relates to the legal definition of marriage. When it comes to marriage, we believe the government should revert to the regigious definition, not the legal definition. In this matter religion should control state and federal politics."

"Floriofanclub, Very well

"Floriofanclub, Very well said for a liberal. But it does raise some questions about Dick...........not married, no kids....could it be he does play hide the sausage once in awhile?"

I really have no knowledge one way or the other about dick's personal life but I do know it is not unusual to find those most opposed to civil rights to share in secret the same characteristics of the groups they oppose. It's called projection.

There are lots of precedents for social conservatives to be "outed", including some televangelist preachers and even congressmen, Mark Foley being the most recent example but I know there have been others as well.

The fact is this whole marriage equality issue is a waste of time for Republicans. Chris Christie wasn't elected because he opposes marriage equality, and I'm glad he's focusing on the issues that matter most to the constituency that elected him.

Dick LaRossa is a political has been who never was, and almost every column he's written and every dirty linen he's exposed blows right back in his face. Any politician who takes what he says seriously will also end up on the political scrap heap.

christiegonewild.blogspot.com

digitup grinding personal axes again

hey, diggemsmacks, you take every opportunity you can on here to personally attack one person and one person only.  Your act is getting old - probably about as old as that mothball stench you emit and those tweed jackets you are disturbingly over reliant upon even in balmy summer months.  When was the last time you secured any truly impressive election victory?  And reelecting republican incumbents in the most republican districts in the state do not count. Those republicans ought to run far away from you before you serve to alienate them any further from the rest of their caucus.  Your wartime advice didn't serve your benefactor very well.

 

Funny you mention Giest and Mathuessen.  Didn't you help them get reelected one cycle?  You remember, the cycle you let a republican runningmate hang out to dry in a deal cut with SJ democrats.  Yeah, some party unifier you are.  Way to honor Reagan's 11th commandment you real time republican, you.  You are wet, spent, and useless. 

idiotic notion???

Look at the state of our society. Those that have demeaned traditional marriage contribute to the high divorce and abandonment rates. The Hollywood culture has instilled the concept that it is perfectly okay to marry and divorce for any reason. Too many people don't take marriage seriously. Permitting people of the same gender to marry would completely make marriage a joke. Traditional marriage and its purpose within society needs to be strengthened, not cast aside.

yeah, let dick tell us about the sanctity of marriage

hehe. he's a joke. also, dick nice try with the group of past senators that cashed out like you. only a fiscal taxpayers watchdog when it suits you -- Tell us again how taxpayers benefited from your trip to Hawaii & who did you go with??? Also -- did they sell their votes for the job? you said you were against Pension Bond Scam. Then got a ride to the state house with the troopers. they kept the board open for you and you voted for it. then Whallah! low show job and free taxpayer funded trip to Hawaii! Too bad Christie wasn't around then. If you are going to insult people, look in the mirror first bro.

"Traditional marriage and

"Traditional marriage and its purpose within society needs to be strengthened, not cast aside."

When people are losing their jobs, their homes, their bank accounts and retirement funds, and can't afford decent health care, do you really think that more than just a few zealous rightwing whackjobs would give a rat's rear end for "traditional marriage"?

If Christie keeps his promise to cut taxes he could support marriage equality, divorce his wife, marry Jim McGreevey and still be re-elected in a landslide.

christiegonewild.blogspot.com

My side

isn't the one that is pushing for our legislature to redefine marriage. I would hope that they focus on far more pressing issues such as getting our budget trimmed down.

"isn't the one that is

"isn't the one that is pushing for our legislature to redefine marriage."

No. You're the one that is pushing for our legislature to maintain the facade of "traditional marriage" so that you can continue reassuring yourself of "normalcy"
in reponse to your own deep-seated sexual and familial insecurities.

christiegonewild.blogspot.com

Although completely wrong,

you are entitled to your opinion.

Mensa

Amen to the Ten!!!!!!!

              It is call the the American Constitution.....................

                     And Death to those who think otherwise.

 "If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."                                                                                          Samuel Adams        

You had to have know Christie was a RINO!

First clue: Almost every County Chariman endorsed him in the Primary.

Second clue:  The media drafted him 2 years ahead especially this website, with polls, etc. just like McCain.

Third Clue: He was made the "Savior of the New Jersey GOP" by the RINOs running the party.

Fourth Clue:  He was nothing more that a beuracrat drawing a government check, part of the problem not the solution.

"The difference between a Democracy and a Peoples Democracy is the same as the difference between a jacket and a straight jacket." - Ronald Reagan

 

Personally I don't give a hoot about gay marriage

What ticks me off is all the political capital that was expended for the civil union legislation. We thought that was the end of it. No. Coming back to the table after the deal was done is dishonest.

Screw it, let us get rid of the civil union law and go back to zero. Fair? No. An education? Yes.

"Fourth Clue: He was

"Fourth Clue: He was nothing more that a beuracrat drawing a government check, part of the problem not the solution."

Fifth Clue: He won.

christiegonewild.blogspot.com

"Amen to the Ten!!!!!!!

"Amen to the Ten!!!!!!!

It is call the the American Constitution.....................

And Death to those who think otherwise."

Is this Hal Turner?

christiegonewild.blogspot.com

FlorioFanClub

I think the case can be made that Corzine lost more than Christie won. This was an "Anybody But Corzine" year.

"The difference between a Democracy and a Peoples Democracy is the same as the difference between a jacket and a straight jacket." - Ronald Reagan

 

Republican Conscience

And only pulling it off by a measly 4 percentage points. Had Corzine been slightly less horrible, he would have won. What does that tell you about the Do Nothing-Elect?

Any word on his STRONG opposition to gay marriage in NJ?

resurrectingreagan???

That's real funny coming from someone about to dump the key planks Reagan got into the GOP platform. Real funny.

Dick "The Boost" LaRossa Gets Political Patronage Plum

Jon Blackwell, The Trentonian, To the Loser Go the Spoils, January 1, 1998
"Less than 24-hours after lame duck legislator Dick LaRossa stepped down from office, his political pals have eased his search for a new job by giving him an $85,500-a-year patronage plum."
"LaRossa even cracked a joke about his salary hike coming just after voter rejection. 'Elected office is the only place where you make out financially if you lose your job,' he said."

The Burlco Bridge Commission

Someone has to write that story. It has everything: politics, sex, and corruption.

r.ewing

Hey loser, post the link or shut up. Clearly you can't because it does not exist. Why would anyone believe someone who takes it up the ass like you do on a daily basis?

Dick LaRossa Loves Taste of Taxpayer Patronage Plums

Jon Blackwell, The Trentonian, To the Loser Go the Spoils, January 1, 1998
"Less than 24-hours after lame duck legislator Dick LaRossa stepped down from office, his political pals have eased his search for a new job by giving him an $85,500-a-year patronage plum."
"LaRossa even cracked a joke about his salary hike coming just after voter rejection. 'Elected office is the only place where you make out financially if you lose your job,' he said."

Wake-Up Call

Morning News Digest: February 9, 2010

Garden State Equality fires new broadside at Dems Smarting over the state Senate's refusal to pass marriage equality and disillusioned at the moment with the Democratic Party majority, Garden State Equality’s 85-member Board of Directors unanimously decided against giving financial contributions to political parties and their affiliated committees. ...

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