October 6, 2008 - 11:01pm
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Poll: Dead heat in 3rd district House race

The race for Jim Saxton's seat in Congress is a statistical dead heat, with Republican Chris Myers leading Democrat John Adler 41%-40%, according to a Monmouth University/Gannett New Jersey poll released today.  Among likely voters, Myers is ahead 44%-41%.

“Despite being out-fundraised and outspent, Myers is holding his own in the district,” said Patrick Murray, director of the Monmouth University Polling Institute. “This part of the state is traditionally Republican, but has been trending Democratic in recent years. Turning out the base will be the key to winning this seat.”

Barack Obama leads John McCain 46%-43% among likely 3rd district voters in a district where George W. Bush beat John Kerry by two percentage points in 2004.  

In Ocean County, Myers leads 45%-33%, while Adler leads in the Burlington County and Cherry Hill part of the district by a 45%-38% margin.

Saxton, a Republican, is retiring after 24 years in Congress.  Democrats have not won the seat since 1882.

EDITOR can be reached via email at editor@politicsnj.com.
Related topics: Jim Saxton

Comments

Margin of Error?


What's the margin of error?

10/07/08 1:44 am

4 in a row


Party is over for Adler.  Four polls - four wins for Myers.  Add that to the revelation that he has been doling out illegal Wayne Bryant pork projects to his friends (Norcross allies) makes this one easier to call.  More shoes are dropping on Adler's campaign than they have at DSW.  Heat is rising in Cherry Hill - but I am sure Johnny boy can get a special "grant" to cool things down.

10/07/08 8:56 am

Poll number 4 or 5


That shows Myers in the lead.

Adler has spent at least $1M and is spending at least another $2M by November 4th.

What a waste of money.

There is no way a Cherry Hill liberal lawyer/Trenton polician can win in this district.  PARTICULARLY after the Bryant trial and Trenton's economic travesty.

10/07/08 8:59 am

abetternjnow


Where are the pro Adler parrots (Andy, Alice and iamreallyaliberaldem oc) who constantly spew out the DCCC talking points?  Oddly quiet now that the polls and the corruption have confirmed what we have known.  Adler is in deep trouble.  Who do you think gets fired next?  Johnny Bye Bye...

10/07/08 11:48 am

Tie to Myers


It is no secret that all the money and PR Adler has tried to do has backfired big time.

Regardless of what anyone posts on how people dont like GOP or this or that, bottom bottom line is that on one here wants a tax and spend Camden County liberal/trenton pol.

Martin and others can crow all they want about how wonderful Adler is but it is REALITY - with all of Adler's endorsements and money spent he should be way in the lead, but people do not like or trust him.

In a tie, Myers wins because of OC and Burlco.  OC is 100% correct on that! 

 

 

10/07/08 12:06 pm

Clear


Let's make it clear. Adler wins this race. 15%-20% undecided a month out in a district that favors Obama?

Oh baby, it's over.

NJ-3 is slipping blue faster than you guys realize.

10/07/08 12:22 pm

DREAM ON


Where do you get your facts? lololololol Oh from Adler talking points.

YOu have no clue how indies are going to vote and since Adler cannot surpass Myers indies are watching and will prob back the one that is not a career pol.

Unless, of course, you can provde us with how every indie will vote or based on what poll you are looking at that states your claim. Right now, adler is the loser. 

 

 

10/07/08 12:35 pm

9?


What are you, nine-years-old? Who uses the phrase "lol"?

To be clear, Adler wins this race.

10/07/08 12:46 pm

So


You cannot furnish any proof can you? Just spinning away witih dreams of the sugar plums in your little head.

YOU were the one a few weeks ago saying how Adler was going to be in double digits now. Again, you  have been proven a liar.

So, do yourself a favor, please furnish myself and others here where this poll you are talking about shows conclusively that Adler will win all those independents.

I can wait, I have said for months that Adler was going to crash and burn and all his money and endorsements were not going to help him.

I guess I am the one that has been proven correct so far. I can wait for your facts. Go ahead.

10/07/08 12:56 pm

Reversal


2 years ago, it would have been inconceivable for a Democrat to be in dead-heat with a Republican in the Congressional race for NJ-3.

Now. Dead heat.

Adler hasn't spent anything yet. Those commercials will reach voters.

10/07/08 1:24 pm

all tied


Independent OC is right and reasonable, as he usually is. I would add that Obama is actually leading in the district -- and McCain has made no ad buys in N.J. and has essentially pulled out of the state. The top of the lever strength of Obama (and Lautenberg) is a plus in this district and state.

I'd love for Adler to have a comfortable lead right now in NJ-03, but that isn't the case for a variety of reasons; I'm quite optimistic, though, about his chances with 4 weeks to go and well over $1 million to spend. We're talking about enough money to put up ads during Eagles and Phillies games, radio ads, and the like. If Myers can't even put up a single ad, well, then this race is over. I also note that the unions, environmental groups, and other organizations on the ground who have already endorsed Adler give him an institutional edge over Myers, and this shouldn't be discounted for GOTV efforts.

Having just perused the Monmouth poll pdf file, I note that the pollsters say a plus for Adler is party ID, as a plurality say that Dems, not Repubs, should control congress (+11 or something akin) and that the economy is overwhelmingly the top concern of district voters. For the latter, we know that this is one of the major reasons that Obama is on the way to defeating McCain, and it should bode well for Adler, too, as voters consider Dems superior to Repubs on the economy.

Get those ads out, continue with the volunteers, and let's win NJ-03 for Adler -- and the good of our country and state.

10/07/08 2:46 pm

Martin


Amen.

10/07/08 3:27 pm

La La Land


Ok, so are you saying that ADler has not spent any money for anythng Indie OC? Adler has not been winging on his name?

I am really chuckling that you have been crowing about how Adler with all this money and his endorsements will be a cake walk for him.

With 28 days to go and Obamas lead growing in NJ, Adler is sunk. Oh well, another Dem bites the dust. Oh and running political ads during sporting games falls on deaf ears; most people leave the room for breaks!

10/07/08 11:50 pm

You must not live in South Jersey...


Looks like pablos is not familiar with John Adler, commercials, and sporting games at all. Remember John Adler's first election? Remember how he won?

Commercials during the Eagles Monday Night Football game the night before the election.

Anyway, if money is so irrelevant, why did Myers have to turn to the toxic President Bush? To Charlie Black, Freddie Mac lobbyist extraordinaire?

Money matters now.

10/08/08 12:50 am

LOL


First off, you have some nerve calling someone else a nine year old.  Your constantly lying wouldn't even rise to a nine year old's level.  But it continues and continues.  More lies spilling out of the mouths of Adlerites.  Hasn't spent any money?  Lie #1 - Adler has spent over $1 million so far.  Yet somehow that can be classified as him haven't spent any money.  Lie #2 - the claim that iamreallyaliberaldem oc is reasonable.   Read his or her posts.  Claiming this race is over and his continued lying is not reasonable, it's desperate.  Lie #3 - McCain has pulled out of the state.  Keep dreaming.  A total fabrication.  Lie #4 - John Adler won his first election.  WRONG.  He lost in 1990 against Jim Saxton.  Amnesia, stupidity or your ever growing love of rewriting history?  The truth is that John Adler has been endorsed by one organization that has been sexually harassing its employees and he remains silent and accepts their cash.  He accepts the endorsement of an organization which seeks to kill our military infrastructure and his campaign came out just yesterday and criticized Jim Saxton for getting money for Lockheed Martin.  Smooth move.  And now we have John Adler who has been dolling out money from a secret slush fund which is not transparent and open.  One person is on trial for it.  And the proof is in the pudding - or the letters which state that Alder's office directed those communities to the funds.  Was not involved in directing where the funding goes?  Guess we know where Alice and iamreallyaliberaldem oc get their love of lying.  Straight from the top.

10/08/08 9:26 am

Thank you OC


They just dont get it, and even when Myers wins they will still be spinning and spinning.

I heard today that Myers has opened up a lead in Ocean County, this is no surprise considering that the way the dems have been acting and the whole Corzine mess, there is a lot of cross over esp for the Saxton folk. They will not endorse a fraud like Adler and so far, Myers is good in OC.

Burlco will go to Myers because regardless of what Martin said about going door to door in Medford, Mt Laurel and Moorestown (which I am skeptical) these GOP strongholds will not elect Adler. It seems a surge of McCain signs have cropped up with the County candidates around Burlco and very little Obama and Adler.

I am confident in Myers because unlike Martin who does not live here and I doubt that Indie OC does too, Myers is a business man and not a slick attorney who has no idea about what the reality of the Burlco residents have to deal with.

Trust me, many in Burlco cannot and will not relate to a trenton pol from Haddon Heights Camden County.

10/08/08 10:31 am

Idiot


Adler is already leading Burlco in the polls. So much for your credibility.

And guess where the undecided voters are. Yep, not in OC.

10/08/08 1:51 pm

seriously?


Over the years, I've heard some pretty preposterous things from the BurlCo Machine apologist "the oc," but his latest rant takes the cake. Adler's first election was not against Jim Saxton; he had already won a Cherry Hill council seat and then upset a Republican incumbent for his state senate seat. Adler's a fighter and a proven winner, and he'll fight for this congressional seat non-stop. Those of us, like Adler and me, who weren't born with a silver spoon in our mouth, a child of privilege, as with "the oc" (no job, last we heard) and a certain country club mayor from Medford, know nothing more than to fight for what is right and give everything.

And McCain hasn't pulled out of Jersey? Are you serious? You've made preposterous claims in the past, but this may take the cake. McCain never put Jersey in play and has barely competed here. According to CNNpolitics.com, Neither Obama nor McCain have made a single ad buy in N.J. The state simply isn't remotely in play at all. The fact that McCain is down by double digits, as is Zimmer, bodes well for Adler and Stender.

For those of us who keep score: Facts, 4; The Blathering Idiot (the oc), 0;

And to Pablo3, I can assure you that Adler is winning BurlCo, as the Monmouth poll attests. It is a matter of how much he'll win the county by. Adler never lived in Haddon Heights, btw, as you claimed. And, of course, there is the little fact that Obama is beating McCain in district 3, which must really sting the conservatives on this thread.

10/08/08 2:55 pm

Wrong Again


Martin, all one has to do is look at the past 3 years of all your post, predictions and rehtoric to realize you know nothing.

Every race in Burloc you called using your logic, your facts and opinions have all be LOSING! Every one.

All your long, drawn out posts about Diane, Chris Smith, Saxton, Rudder, Addiego, Haines et al have all proven you to be very non believable.

Oh and Indie Oc, what does a Monmouth poll have to do with Burlco? How about this for size, internalo polling in munis in Burlco have Myers leading Adler. Period. That goes for the coveted M' towns, Moorestown, Mt Laurel, Medford and yes, Marlton.

Too bad that I have to say it again. With less than 28 days to the election and the money, endorsements and time Adler has spent have not helped him. The embarrassment is that Myers has not had to worry because he does not have the money and endorsements; he is being who he is and not a slick Trenton Pol.

Makes you think

10/08/08 3:32 pm

Oh


Sorry, my bad Indie Martin used the Momouth Poll so I apologize for accusing you of that.

And, past presidential races have proven nothng as to how Burlco residents vote. 2000, 2002, 2004 and yes 2006 have all gone the way of the GOP locally in spite of the dem presential top of ticket.

Do your homework - every GOP congressional and State Senate and Freeholder and Sheriff seat has all maintained GOP status. Add clerk too.

10/08/08 3:36 pm

Oh Alice


Oh Alice - can't you go one post without lying?  Adler did not get elected to the State Senate until 1992.  Yet some how in your fantasy world 1992 came before 1990 when he lost to Saxton.  Nice try Dorothy.  Now let's get to the comment that you don't have a silver spoon in your mouth, yet you have such an oral fixation I am wondering what it is in there?  I can think of two things but the least likely is your foot which you constantly have crammed in your mouth.  Now the last you heard I had no job?  From whom did you hear that because that is a lie.  Oh I keep forgetting, that you keep making those false claims.  But please be assured - you are the only one who is a jobless "educator" who is 3 years from going totally bald (have you looked at your picture) and has a "thing" for purses.  I on the other hand have a job, which will be impacted by Obama's record tax increases, have a mortgage and don't live in my mommy's basement in Haddonfield, and don't wear a purse.  Oh yeah - I mentioned that already.  And McCain has not "pulled out" of NJ.  I wish your father did but that is irrelevant.  According to CNN, neither made an ad buy in NJ?  No kidding you idiot.  There is only one network affiliate in the State (AC).  I was in northern NJ two weeks ago and saw 10 campaign ads for McCain from a buy in NYC.  Because NJ is sandwiched between Philly and NYC media markets, there is no need to deal with an AC affiliate.  So technically CNN is correct when it states no ad buy in NJ, but intellectually - where you apparently are lacking despite your constant education - it is wrong.  Buys have been made in Philly and NYC which covers NJ.  And here I gave you too much credit and thought you were a semi-smart.  For those of scoring - purse wearing limp wrested balding educator - dozens of lies, the truth 0.  Keep up the good work Tinker Bell.  The tutu is getting too tight but at least it matches your purse.  There I go again.

10/08/08 4:09 pm

What poll shows Adler leading in Burlco?


The same one sitting on Adler's desk at HQ which shows him losing and got someone fired?

10/08/08 4:14 pm

How About...


How about the Monmouth University one yesterday that showed Adler leading in Burlco. That works.

Pablos, huge logical fallacy in your argument. You cannot compare a 20-something year popular incumbent to Chris Myers. Myers simply does not have the same level of support or name recognition. That is evident from the fact that a 20-point GOP lead 2 years ago has evaporated into a statistical dead heat.

Chris Myers thought he could just run on the GOP brand in NJ-3, but he picked a terrible year to do it. The district has been very moderate on the national level, and will reflect national trends as the popular Jim Saxton is not on the ballot.

10/08/08 9:06 pm

clarity from chaos


Independent OC, I'm glad that you can glean some coherence from the oc's rambling one-paragraph diatribes, where narcissism, chest-beating (still anonymous, I see) and ad hominem attacks are the name of the game, because half the time, I can't. This is someone who truly believes that McCain hasn't pulled out of N.J. (he was never competing) and that McCain has a real chance of winning here. One wonders about the mental health of such a delusional person.

And poor Pablo3, who I'm beginning to think doesn't even live in New Jersey, keeps going back to local races won through the Paulsen 20 Slush Fund and doesn't understand the dynamic is different on the national level -- thus Menendez beats Kean Jr. in BurlCo, Gore beats Bush in district 3, and Corzine beats Forrester in BurlCo.

By the way, Paulsen hack and Myers campaign manager Chris Russell claims that the NRCC has given Myers money (which may have been 84k for fliers. What a commitment!). Can anyone point me to NRCC expenditures for ad buys in district 3? Oh, that's right, the NRCC deserted Myers after doing some initial polling. All alone in an anti-Republican year, with hardly any volunteers, and no ad buys -- well, you can see where this is going.

10/08/08 9:34 pm

Right


And that "hack" Myers is now up by 3% in Burlco according to philly burbs!

Like I said, saying a whole lot nothing. Myers was at an event tonight in Marlton that was a packed house with GOP, Dem and Indies there; I heard it was great!

But if you find comfort in believeing in denial, go right ahead. I just love sitting back and watching Myers gain ground without the amount of endorsements and money that Adler has spent - you know, the same endorsements that you all said were tandamount to Adler winning in a landslide.

Oh and OC, you owe me a new keyboard for spilling my drink laughing at your posts lol

10/08/08 10:28 pm

Pablos


The check is in the mail. But I don't know which ad hominem attacks Alice in Wonderland is talking about. That lying hypocrite - yes you Tinker Bell aka Martian - complains of people attacking him personally, yet only 5 hours earlier he does the same thing on one of his posts. Is it my fault I am much better at it than he is? Or that I have the facts to back up my arguments and he makes things up like he is in Never-Neverland? Did the pixie dust seep into that balding scalp of his rendering him a purse wearing liberal zombie who can't tell fact from fiction? I don't know but his complaints are falling on deaf ears if he continues to do the same things he complains about. Amateur. And as I stated, McCain has not pulled out of NJ, moron. Bill Baroni who is running his state campaign was just out as his surrogate two days ago. More lies. And you continued to state as fact that the NRCC is not getting involved but at every turn you are exposed as the lying, balding fraud I called you years ago. The NRCC just spent more money on Monday. Yet, you continually say they are not involved but when they spend money, you make up some ridiculous excuse. Mom making you do too many chores which takes you away from your basement home? Not enough time to coordinate outfits and handbags? And you forgot that Bush beat Kerry. If you are going to "go back" to national races, why not mention that one? Oh because it doesn't quite fit in with your web of lies? I forgot. Silly me. By the way, how is Dennison who according to you ran the best campaign in the state of NJ doing? Four polls - four leads for Myers. Shoes dropping everywhere and the corrupt practices of John Adler are coming to the attention of everyone in the district. Can't wait for the next poll to come out so it will be five for five. And Dorothy aka Martian - I am not talking about the type of poll you have in your basement with the mirrors which you dance in front of on Saturday nights. Got it?

10/09/08 9:22 am

Rude Awakening


So that rant consisted of nothing but ad hominem attacks. Nothing. the oc thinks that shouting something out, and not backing it up, constitutes proof if you are discussing a GOP candidate.

the oc, three polls have shown us a dead heat in the race. Three polls. You obviously can't comprehend what that means, which will give you a big shock on election day, when Myers is sweating and stammering through an awkward concession speech.

No one has ignored the fact that Bush beat Kerry, that fact will propel Dems nationwide to take seats they wouldn't have otherwise. But Bush only beat Kerry 52-48 in NJ-3. Things are a lot closer on the national level than Jim Saxton's victories suggested.

If you want to talk about shoes dropping on corruption, Myers has just opened a world of hurt for himself by accusing Adler of taking from that slush fund.

Everyone knows about the Burlco GOP and their $2.7 million theft from the taxpayers. Now, Myers is going to have to pay for it.

10/09/08 1:19 pm

Still can't figure out how to count up to four?


You just don't get it - it is four. I have explained this so that even a simpleton can understand. Apparently you are not bright enough to understand this issue at a simpleton's level so do I need to get a pop-up book published so you can finally understand? Four polls - One Republican, two independent, and one sitting at a desk at Adler HQ which I have had confirmed by someone with first hand knowledge. This is the poll which got the last campaign manager ousted among other things. So get a clue.

I will stop the attacks once Alice stops. Seeing that is not going to happen, it is not my fault I am better at it than he is.

Opened a world of hurt? Man, you guys and gals in Camden County are running scared and are desperate. Adler personally directed people towards the fund which is an illegal, non-transparent fund. Yet Adler said he knew nothing about it. The evidence says he did - not evidence from Republican sources, but from Democrats. Myers had nothing to do with the hiring of Stears. He had no oversight of the contract or work Stears did - or didn't do. Yet somehow he is complicit in Stears' crimes? That is the most ridiculous thing I have heard today - and seeing you've posted more than once today, the fact that you topped yourself is remarkable. If we use your twisted logic of Myers is a Republican from Burlington County, he must be complicit in the crime, you would have to agree that because John Adler is a Democrat from NJ, he must be gay because McGreevey is gay. Or because Adler is a Senate Democrat from NJ, he must be guilty of fraud because Sharpe James is a Senate Democrat from NJ. Want to get more local and one that is now touching Adler where Dorothy only fantasizes? Adler is a Senate Democrat from Camden County, so he must be involved in the Wayne Bryant ongoing scandal. Oh wait, he is involved. Nice try but people are not as stupid as you think they are. The bridge issue did not work in the local elections last time around, it won't work this time either. FOUR polls - four leads - remember to take your socks off to count up to four.

10/09/08 1:47 pm

Three


The papers have reported three. Go on. Make up as many things as you'd like.

Myers keeps receiving money from all of the people involved in the Bridge Commission Scandal. They're in his own backyard, and yet the White Knight won't denounce them, won't ask them to give the money back, won't do anything for Burlco.

This is the same Chris Myers who demanded that John Adler apologize for bloggers. This is a lot more real, Chris, and a lot less ridiculous. Go on. Go do something about the $2.7 million taken from your constituents.

Adler's Campaign is dead on on this one. Myers's silence is deafening.

10/09/08 4:52 pm

Not making up a thing


There are four. Someone was fired over it. Too bad you can face reality.

And Myers had nothing to do with the Stears issue. Where is Adler condemning Bryant? James? All of the rest? Give me a break. The Bridge issue worked well for you last time - keep using it. Someone should fire Warren. He is clueless.

10/09/08 5:09 pm

making sense of the senseless


Claims v. Fact, Number 786:

Pablo3: "Myers is now up by 3% in Burlco according to philly burbs!" (no source cited)

Courier Post: "But in Cherry Hill, Adler's hometown, and Burlington County, Adler is favored 45 percent to 38 percent."

There go those pesky facts again!

Note that these are pre-ad buy polls -- and Myers can't buy any ads, even after bringing in Pres. Bush as his Hail Mary.

10/09/08 6:13 pm

Money


Yeah, if money didn't matter, why did Myers bring in President Bush??

Enough said.

Adler wins.

10/09/08 8:04 pm

Wrong Again


Marty, you know that there are many polls and maybe the polls you are quoting are from one source.

Why do the papers say one thing? Oh I forgot, Martin is the know it all behind the races in Burlington. Martin has correctly predicted every race and winner in Burlington for the past four years!

Slush Fund is hurting Adler every day, Johnny Jump to It is still spinning as of todays blogs trying to feign ignorance.

Myers wins easily

Oh Indie OC - I feel sorry that you are that ignorant, last I heard Bush was not running! Who cares>? loll

10/09/08 9:04 pm

Who Cares?


The 120 million Americans, who vote, care.

If Myers wins easily, he wouldn't be running around bragging about being in statistical dead heats with John Adler. He would just keep doing what he is doing and watch the voters come to him.

But he's running around bragging about being in statistical dead heats, trying to get some money and positive press.

John Adler, on the other hand, isn't running around saying he's in a statistical dead heat. He's sticking to his game plan and watching as the numbers turn from GOP - 60, Dems 40 to GOP 41, Dems 40.

Myers is the one that's lost 19 points, not Adler.

Give the ads a week, the numbers will turn quite quickly.

10/09/08 11:14 pm

I remember


I remember Alice making those same claims last time when Sexton ran.  Bush was going to bring Saxton down, blah blah blah.  Then, Rickie Perr spent millions on a two prong approach - tie Addiego Rudder and Haines to Bush and throw the bridge commission issue against the wall and see if will stick.  Guess what it got you?  Million wasted.  Feel free to use the same "winning" strategy you used last time.  And the reason Adler is not saying he is losing is because he spent a million dollars and he is LOSING.  It is an embarasment.  He fired one campaign manager because he wasted money and their poll showed Adler losing.  Now, Warren is spending millions and he is down in three polls (Alice - dont get all excited about going down on "polls").  Hire me to tank your campaign - I will even give you a discount Johnny boy. 

10/10/08 9:17 am

Lame


God your jokes are lame. We get it. You think Martin is gay because he's smarter than you, understands what facts are, and understands the real problems facing this country. Give it a break. You're not funny.

Instead of anonymously and pointlessly attacking someone over the internet, why don't you try to explain why Myers has lost 19 points in 2 years? Because he's not Jim Saxton? Because he pulls in President Bush for fundraisers? Because he thinks the economy is "basically strong?"

I'm sure we'll have this discussion again in a week, when Myers has let one of the GOP's most reliable seats slip away even further.

10/10/08 1:50 pm

No


I never said Alice is gay.  Please indicate specifically where I stated "Martin is gay."  Or a "homosexual."  I never said either of those so please don't put words in my mouth.  And just because you have no sense of humor does not mean others do not.  So mind your own business for a change.  He is not "smarter" than me.  Obviously he is not smart enough to make his way out of his mother's basement to find a place to live.  He is not smart enough to comprehend the truth.  And he is not smart enough to crop out that purse in his picture.  But I am glad you are his knight in shining armor.  How gallant of you!!  You're a hero.  Myers has lost 19 points?  That has to be the dumbest thing I have heard today and again, you have posted more than once today.  He has been running for less than a year and somehow you tie him to a race 2 years ago?  You are an idiot.  I cannot explain it any other way.  Explain to me why John Adler has "lost" 8 points since he ran last time if you are going to use that stupid logic?  He can't even top what he got the last time he ran?  Moron.  Next week, I am sure the fifth poll will confirm what the first four have - Myers in the lead.  The slush fund is resonating with people.  I have spoken to many of them.  Facts don't lie - but you do.  Next week will also show us which shoe is next to drop.  This is like a bad soap opera for Johnny Bye Bye.  You(r politcal career) didn't have to die.  You(r political career) didn't have to die.  www.firemarkwarren.com

10/10/08 2:03 pm

OC


I needed that laugh tonight! Bless you!

Martin is not stupid, but his posts are.

He has not predicted one correct win ever since I can remember reading and posting here.

I went back and read a lot of them and I really think he just may be an agitator stirring things up. But that is ok, makes for entertainment.

Yes, Adler is losing because he cannot pull ahead of Myers and he wont! OC interal polls have Myers well ahead of Adler, and Burlco will eventually go to Myers.

Myers wins

10/10/08 8:16 pm

Liars!


in todays philly burbs www.phillyburbs.com the largest Vet group like the PAC for the vets has not endorsed any canddiate for the 3rd district. They are staying neutral, but at the base of the article, they say that vets do what they need to for each other - very easy to understand.

Independent OC, Andy Grey have made staunch claims that vets will support Adler hands down. I and a few others said that Sam Podietz the head of the Jewish war vets was the first to come out publically for Myers and so far at the events we have been to where they have been there, they are not quiet about their support.

Makes me think about the other claims from the sad Adler clans, but hey, Johnny Jump to it is the one in trouble and well as one release said the other day, the canddiate that spends the most to only be behind or tied is the loser.

Myers wins

10/11/08 11:45 am

Whoa


Absolutely false. I have only said that the VFW would not endorse Myers, and, oh boy, they haven't!

Myers couldn't even get the VFW to endorse him? He must be in bad shape.

It's over. Adler wins.

10/11/08 5:13 pm

Deer caught in the headlights


Sums up Johnny Bye Bye at the debate.  His silence over whether he will release his ethics report is telling.  And what it is telling me is that he has something to hide.  Another shoe is about to drop - wait for it, wait for it.  This things is just about over with Myers representing the 3rd District,  Four polls - four leads for Myers.

10/11/08 7:07 pm

Shoes


You're really into shoes. You talk about them all the time. This fetish seems a little strange and out of place for a political website.

Anyway, Chris Myers, "decorated combat veteran," couldn't even get the VFW to endorse him. Tells me all I need to know.

This race is over, and has been for a while.

10/11/08 11:12 pm

OC Is right


I have heard a few things that Johnny Jump to It will be having to deal with; apparently if I were Adler I would be very nervous now.

But what happend to the vets endorsing Adler? Wow Indie OC you swore that was going to happen but I guess desperate is as desperate does.

Again, Myers wins

10/11/08 11:31 pm

Whoa


Again, it seems like you do not pay very close attention and lie when convenient.

I have never said that the VFW would endorse Adler. He had no chance getting there endorsement against a veteran.

I did say they haven't (repeatedly), and probably wouldn't endorse Myers.

And it looks like I was right.

Myers couldn't even get the endorsement of the VFW.

And if Adler has so much to deal with, say what those things are instead of attempting to ominously refer to them to scare the 8 people that read this site and don't regularly post on every Adler or Myers article.

10/12/08 9:10 pm

When it is a metaphor


When it is a metaphor for scandals dropping on Adler's head - yes I am into shoes.  But not like Alice is into pumps, matching colors with his bags, and those special Saturday nights when the stilettos come out.  And you are calling someone else a liar?  Now I have heard everything.  I could cut and paste a mile of the lies you have spread on here.  Adler has been in the State Senate for 16 years and has be the "champion" of veterans issues - I recall him patting himself on the back and telling everyone who will listen that he wrote some health care bill for vets and a GI bill - yet he can't gather the VFW endorsement against a guy who is the mayor of a small town?  Are you freaking kidding me?  If that isn't a slap in the face I don't know what is.  Adler and corruption - perfect together.  Four polls - four leads for Myers.

10/14/08 10:06 am