During his convention speech, Barack Obama enunciated his theory of government: it exists to ensure that "we are all our brothers’ (and sisters’) keepers". Curiously, the main stream media pretty much ignored the candidate’s stated intention to impose this religious dogma through governmental fiat.
But comes now his running mate, Joe Biden, defending the duo’s economic plan as follows:
"Catholic social doctrine as I was taught it is, you take care of people who need the help the most."
STOP THE PRESSES!! Where are Americans United for the Separation of Church and State?!? Where are People for the American Way? Where is the ACLU? Where is The New York Times editorial page intoning pompously about the necessity to keep faith and government entirely separate?
Why is it, pray tell (or, I suppose, under the circumstances, don’t pray, just tell), that the only time the Left waxes indignant about someone imposing Catholic doctrine is when it involves abortion or homosexuality? Interesting, isn’t it, that Senator Biden paid such close attention to his Church’s view on economic policy, and, apparently, entertains not the slightest compunction about imposing those views upon a reluctant public, but paid no attention whatsoever to the Church’s abortion teaching. Or, at least, believes that the people possess a right to dissent on abortion but not on redistribution.
Biden also noted that he feels that it’s "patriotic" for rich folk to pay higher taxes. Sounds like an old Donald Duck cartoon. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfwZNomxsNg. (That message did not resound even then, during a world war). One could understand such a statement, if the good Senator’s statement were to this effect:
"We’re at war and, in extreme times, the country requires the resources to provide our soldiers with the best equipment possible. We’ve proposed to cut spending to the bone, to eliminate earmarks and other frivolities, and to foreswear expensive new social programs, but we still need money for aircraft, tanks, and ammunition. Every patriot needs to sacrifice in times of war and, when this war is won, we will repeal these additional taxes. Indeed, we’re including a sunset provision to ensure that each and every subsequent Congress must vote to reimpose them."
Heck, even I would support such a policy, were the military need great.
But, instead, his statement is to this effect:
"We think it’s unfair that some people make a lot of money while their neighbors make less. So, we’re going to impose a massive tax increase on people who work hard and succeed (as well as upon the families of people unfortunate enough to die) to fund massive giveaways to folks we think deserve it more. We know this will hurt the economy; Obama himself said so. But that’s a price we’re willing to make you pay. It’s patriotic to pay these taxes to provide goodies to your neighbors, who haven’t earned them. Yes indeed, socialism is patriotic."
I attended Catholic schools for a number of years, and spent a many hours in CCD class. I also perused the Gospels at length (during otherwise boring homilies). Apparently, I missed the section in which Jesus – or the Church – taught that charity should be governmentally compelled.
Now, admittedly, the Church’s economic doctrine often reads as you’d expect of a treatise written by folks who took vows of poverty; if actually followed, we’d all be living in monasteries. But if taken as admonitions to the faithful about how they should act, as opposed to governmentally enforced demands, they make considerable sense. Catholic doctrine teaches that, to be a good Catholic, one must be one’s brothers’ keeper. The Church also teaches that good Catholics must sacrifice for the benefit of the poor. But, so far as I know, the Church nowhere establishes taxation rates on its congregants, understanding that the quantum of charity is the province of the donor. Catholic Church doctrine asks its members to dig deep, but passes a basket, not a tax bill. It appeals to conscience; in a word, it asks, it does not demand.
More tellingly, given Biden’s pathetic record of charitable contributions, it’s clear that he personally rejects his obligations, as defined by the Church’s teachings. Why should anyone accept his devotion to Catholic doctrine as public policy when he manifestly fails to abide by those teachings himself? Apparently, he feels that when he presents before the Pearly Gates, and confronts Saint Peter’s question – "what did you do to improve the lot of your fellow man?" – his response – "I paid my taxes" – will suffice. Good luck with that.
As I recollect, the very last commandment reads, in effect, "thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s goods". Is not the entire Democratic Party economic philosophy based upon a bald-faced violation of that commandment? Obama/Biden promises "the middle class" – narrowly defined – a "tax cut" – really welfare, in the sense the folks who don’t pay taxes will receive a check nevertheless – at the expense of their more prosperous neighbors. This, Biden tells us, is both "Catholic" and "patriotic".
Nonsense. It’s a base appeal to envy. It represents an attempt to purchase votes with other people’s money. It’s neither "Catholic" nor "patriotic", and it violates fundamental American – read "patriotic" – notions that people should be free to earn what they can and keep that which they earn. Yes, government may legitimately compel us to sacrifice for the common defense, even demanding that we put our lives on the line. But stealing from one segment of society to reward another is beyond the legitimate scope of governmental authority.
Given all the media hoopla about Governor Palin’s religiosity (her views on Intelligent design merit lengthy discussion), one would think that Biden’s express desire to impose his quirky view of Catholic doctrine through governmental command might merit a mention. Alas, no. There are no enemies on the (religious) left.
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Save me the false outrage, Mike. Biden is saying that he learned that type of thinking from his Catholic upbringing, not that he is doing it because he is Catholic.
You portray yourself as the last honest man. How about being one?
Biden
Am I missing something here-- Biden who wears his religion on his sleeve and pontificates on how much Americans should give back to their county donates less than one per cent of his income to his church and all other charities combined ? What am I missing here?
Biden
He is about as much a Catholic as Hitler was a Choir Boy......
Phony
I will tell you what is un-patriotic: pissing away those hard earned tax dollars in Iraq. If not for the Iraqi detour and massive give-away of American dollars to God knows who In the Middle East (where our friends today will probably be our enemy in 20 years), we would have enough in the U.S. Treasury to fund the massive tax cuts that those poor, destitute Morris County residents so bitterly need. (Inject sarcasm here).
As usual, the left wing
As usual, the left wing media refuses to point out the wrongs of the democrats, when it is quick to point out (as loud as they can) the wrongs of the republicans. The Obama/Biden ticket has been very amusing to watch, but they have absolutely no useful message. Somebody needs to start reporting the fact that they are full of empty rhetoric and devoid of an actual plan.
Be wary of anyone
Be wary of anyone who actually uses their middle name. It is a clear harbinger of Pomposity.
An honest politician
Joe Biden is simply talking about where he learned his values. I don't hear him trying to inflict his views on others. He's honestly saying what he thinks. I know that this is such a rare thing in politics that you probably don't see it when it bites you on the behind.
Joe Biden looks to me like an honest guy. Is that why you feel the need to beat up on him?
Catholicism is not a buffet
Adults choosing to participate in the life of the Church and calling themselves Catholic assume the obligations of heeding the Church's teachings. Joe Biden manifests his identity as a poor Catholic through his actions and statements. He cannot consider himself a faithful Catholic when he heeds the Church's social doctrines, but violates Her teaching on life.
Mr. Biden should recuse himself from receiving the body and blood of Christ in Communion. If not, his Bishop should call him out in accord with canon law. Mr. Biden invites scandal on the Church through his blatant hypocrisy and support for the killing of innocent human life.
But at least he does not want babies to die lying in a sink. ...
Laus Deo,
Jesse O. Kurtz
Managing Editor for The Atlantic City Scoop
http://cityofatlantic.wordpress.com
Jesseokurtz@gmail.com
Tithe unto Caesar...
...after you've tithed unto the supreme divine church, since the Vatican has instructed that your tithes should cover before-tax income. However Joe Biden gets the job done, his broadly cast soliloquy about patriotism and taxes being perfect together, it's a great tag for the upcoming debates.
Tithe unto Caesar...
...after you've tithed unto the supreme divine church, since the Vatican has instructed that your tithes should cover before-tax income. However Joe Biden gets the job done, his broadly cast soliloquy about patriotism and taxes being perfect together, it's a great tag for the upcoming debates.
Tithe unto Caesar...
It's Bad enough I have to see and read this Garbage once........But Twice.............
Dear JesseOKurtz
The line about the babies in sinks is pretty sick, and below someone who professes to be moral and Christian.
Obama voted against the bill because 1) it was unnecessary since there were already laws on the books that handled the issue just fine; and 2) the bill itself was a stalking horse to make abortions less legal and less available.
But why would you need to be honest? It's not like there's a commandment about that, is there?
Donald Duck...
Am I the only one who actually watched the Donald Duck video? I have to say, for a propoganda film, I found it quite amusing :-)
Onto the topic at hand, I think that many Catholics would find some kind of hypocricy in Biden's statement and don't fault Mike for pointing those out.
Many can fairly attack Carroll for making his claims - and I know he would be up to defending his opinion - but the truth is that you can't have it both ways.
If Bush, Palin, or anyone else is slapped for explaining how their religious views shape their view of the world and government, than Biden should be equally open to such criticism.
Veritas vos Liberabit
"Collecting more taxes than absolutely necessary is legalized robbery." - Calvin Coolidge
Democrats and Religion
Catholics and Republicans cherish life and (voluntary) charity. Democrats cherish abortion and (involuntary) charity.
Render Unto Caesar
The citizens of this country, and this state, have a responsibility to protect those who are less fortunate than we are, like orphans and the disabled who cannot work for themselves. That is done with police coverage and first aid coverage and a vigorous military where organization, discipline and leadership are valued more than the biggest fanciest weapons.
If you can find away to do this that totally eliminates taxation, I might actually support one of your advertisers with some actual real money, but right now there aren't many jobs around here, so that is not likely now, is it?
What this state lacks is respect.
If you pay taxes on land someone sold to you once, you don't get to decide how safe this state is. You don't get to whine about every little penny that your "daddy" is going to take away. There are children here, and elderly people and disabled people who can't work. Can't, as in can not, as in no sir, sorry, no blood from a stone. These children are learning from your examples. They will be the ones following them, until they learn that your way is just as dumb as the ones you are complaining about.
Spite and envy is all I see almost everywhere. Fear and anxiety is all around too.
Who is Michael Patrick Carroll trying to push around exactly?
Not me. New Jersey is my home. I can't be pushed around.
Erik B. Anderson
Independence Township, NJ
The spirits on Shades of Death road here are learning how to take care of themselves from my father, who has a flag in Palmer Park, Long Valley, dedicated to his service to scouting and the youth of Long Valley.
Weird NJ no more.
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...after you've tithed unto the supreme divine church, since the Vatican has instructed that your tithes should cover before-tax income.
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