Holt defends 'aye' vote on healthcare reform

Rush, pediatricians in your district and all over the state cannot get flu vaccines (regular and H1N1) to give to children. According my pediatrician, the NJ Dept. of Health has a computer problem that wil lset the arrival of vaccines back another 2-3 weeks beyond what they've been set back thus far.

Meanwhile there are 300 doses of vaccine in Gitmo, an isolated base filled with prisoners who will likely never be exposed to the flu.

Further, the most corrupt college or university in the state over the last decade has been the University of Medicine and Dentistry.

The gov't cannot manage a simple flu vaccine program or a medical school, so how the heck do you expect us to trust you to run the entire medical industry?

"We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work!"
- FDR's Treasure Secretary, Henry Morgenthau, in 1939, on 8 years of New Deal spending as an attempt to end the Great Depression.

Congressman Holt is living in la la land. He hasn't even had the decency to respond to correspondence sent him, and to his staff.

All I received was an email boasting how he voted for the PelosiCare bill.

Well, my answer is simple. I'm joining a taxpayers revolt and voting to throw all the bums out.

Mike Halfacre for Congress! He'll listen to the people!

Where the hell does it say  in our constitution that we are going to fine and jail Americans for not accepting Marxist healthcare ? 

Manage a simple flu vaccine program...has it escaped you that the private sector companies that are making the h1n1 vaccine are having an equally difficult time producing the vaccine...science as you know (maybe) takes time, vaccines are not just ordered by the govt and poof they are there.

The Constitution does not impact on this, Congress has the right to pass legislation for the people, they have properly excercised their Constitutional authority. Sarah Palin's blog is not ripe constitutional scholarship.

The rather armchair analysis of Marxism that is vomited by punditry on the right is far from accurate. Marxisim is pure and simple political philosophy, while its practicle implications are obviously flawed, it is not evil. Should the voice of the people, through our representatives in congress be heard and the government respond with new national healthcare it isnt Marxist, there are any number of national government programs. Furthermore, if you have insurance or pay your bills you already pay for everyone's healthcare. This is a good bill, and a much needed reform. Healthcare should not be a benefit to those who are able to get access. Companies should not be permitted to profit on the pain and suffering of others. There are somethings that even in this nation, a capitalist nation, that should be prioritized over money and profit.

I enjoyed reading Joe's comments - but thought he might be interested in this. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/11/12/eveningnews/main5633412.shtml?... This is a report from last nights CBS Evening News. In the UK, there are no lines for H1N1 vaccines, and because of the "nationalization" of their health care system, the most at-risk people were the first to get the vaccine. This is because their health care system is able to identify every person and their level of risk. As a result, swine flu cases are dramatically dropping and there are less deaths in the UK than in the US. Granted, UK flu vaccine makers can make more vaccine because they are allowed to use an additive which is not used in the US. However, this is an example of where government's ability to provide good, quality care is resulting in decreased outbreaks and deaths.

why should Americans be forced to swallow an Acorn with a nut attached. ?

I know my democratic friends don't like hearing this but as long as doctors play defensive medicine nothing will change. I have no problem with universal coverage but until we can pay for it we should do something that doesn't cost money but will immediately save money.

Is it too factual and intellectual for everyone to enjoy? I guess you would rather have petty ideological battles and partake in name calling than a real discussion of the issues.

I'm a physician.  To suggest "gov't run health care [is] working in the UK" because they have administrated H1N1 vaccines in a timely manner is plainly an overstatement.  The government has often--not always--done a good job to regarding epidemiology.  But you make the mistake of broadening this small, recent success TO ALL OF HEALTH CARE.  That's too much, my friend.

Instead, a more accurate statement is, "The government can do a good job to contain epidemics/pandemics.  This speaks nothing about its ability for the rest of health care."  

 Rice is cheap in China.  China, therefore, has a good business climate.  Right?

 Health reform from the government is certainly necessary.  The AMA supports this plan, which is good to hear.  But please don't look at other countries as good examples.

"You and your fellow democrats have distroyed the work ethic and the rugged individuality of the American Spirit"

You're kidding right? Democrats, middle class people, traditionally blue collar workers/defenders, the Americans not rich enough to find tax loopholes, the democrats that have passed federal stimulus to keep factories moving...Republicans use deficit spending, have no problem shipping jobs overseas because their rich biddies profit...business owners and capitalist elites made this country a zero-producer it wasnt the people working the jobs that have been lost.

Joe Im not tripping over anything lets ignore the simple and glaringly obvious fact that there are 240,000,000 more people in the United States vs. the UK, but you cannot ignore the science regarding H1N1 vaccines-furthermore the vaccine itself is not at all indicative of how effective govt run healthcare is...medicare works. I honestly and sincerely urge anyone challenging my interpretation of the Constitution to actually read it, read Madison's notes, read the federalist papers, read the Fabius letters, read the anti-federalist papers...what Glenn Beck, and Bill O'Reilly say about the Constitution is so far from accurate that it borders on crazy...again, I have no idea why everyone gets so hostile on these forums.

""We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work!"
- FDR's Treasure Secretary, Henry Morgenthau, in 1939, on 8 years of New Deal spending as an attempt to end the Great Depression."

Hey Joe,

Get your history straight. Roosevelt wasn't even inaugurated until 1933, 6 years before your reference. Besides, it ended up costing alot more government spending to end the Great Depression; an international incident known as World War Two.

"It's funny to watch two liberals trip over each other in defending gov't healthcare.

Junkie says there are enough vaccines in England to justify socialized medicine while SJ contends that it simply takes too long to make them.

You can't have it both ways, boys"

And you're trying to have it three ways. You were the one who brought up the subject and SJ pointed out the irrelevancy of it to the bigger issue.

Stick to misreading history.

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There already is a National Public Option for higher education. It is called the US DOE Federal Direct Loan Program and it worked flawlessly for me. There was no perverse incentive to send my account into default. There was no $35 late fee if my payment posted at 12:01 vs 12:00. And quite frankly, I appreciated sending my payment to Uncle Sam instead of Sallie Mae.

You can espouse conservative values here all you want but I dare any of you to tell me that you'd rather take a student loan for your kids from Citibank than Direct Loan for priciples sake.