
Some political insiders view independent Christopher Daggett as a potential spoiler in the race for Governor.
"I think the race has come down to Daggett," said Newark South Ward leader Carl Sharif, a Democrat and a Corzine supporter. "With Chris Christie and Jon Corzine even (most recent polls register the candidate in the 40% range), the question becomes whether Daggett's 12 to 14 percent is solid support. If it's hard support, Corzine wins. If its soft support, and those voters peel off Daggett in the voting booth, most polls show they're going to vote for anybody but Corzine, and that's where Corzine could have problems. That's where Christie wins."
Democrats like Sharif figure that as long as Daggett's support holds and he drains Christie's independent voter support in southern Morris, Somerset and Hunterdon counties, Democrats can win a GOTV dogfight with their superior party machinery and squeak Corzine back into power.
"Barack Obama is here today as part of a mechanical calculation," said Bill Schluter, a former Republican senator and independent candidate for governor in 2001 who supports Christie for governor. "His presence here is designed solely to motivate a listless Democratic Party base, and it remains to be seen whether that actually works."
Sharif agrees.
"The Democrats have brought in two party sweethearts in as many days - Obama and former President Bill Clinton - and whether that translates is a big question," he said.
Biden, Clinton, Obama - all the big names this week here stumping for Corzine still lead people back to Daggett.
Tom Daggett is how one Hunterdon County Republican repeatedly referred to him in a conversation with PolitickerNJ.com, derision unintended, whose off-the-record observation from Republican Party country was the same as that of his counterparts in urban New Jersey: there's no enthusiasm.
So talk - in all circles - returns to Daggett.
"Chris Daggett does not have my background and experience as a legislator, but he does have the advantage of having qualified for public matching funds - and that's the big difference," said Schluter, who received 1% of the vote in his gubernatorial contest with Republican Bret Schundler and ultimate winner Woodbridge Mayor James McGreevey.
Although he does not believe Daggett can win, or come close to winning, Schluter said he agrees with Sharif that the independent will decide this election and for the same reasons.
So does Hillside Mayor Joe Menza, reluctantly, an independent who backs Christie for governor.
"Daggett's the clown of the election," said Menza. "He's got nothing to lose, so he's out there laughing and cracking one-liners. Corzine and Christie are beating each other up, so for some people, he becomes an option. But all he is is a spoiler. I think if he gets above 13 points, Christie's in trouble. If he gets below ten points, Christie wins."
Dr. Peter Woolley, director of polling for Fairleigh Dickinson University, who on Oct. 6th read the race as 38% Corzine, 37% Christie and 17% Daggett, said he thinks Daggett is "a sponge soaking up the hemorrhage of discontent," and any other word or idea reflecting independence in this environment works just as well, he said.
But Woolley rejects the notion that soft Daggett backers will vote for Christie.
"In our poll, when you reverse the cross tabs, you can see that it's two Democrats for every one independent, for every one Republican - 2-1-1. So, just on party affiliation, Daggett's hurting Corzine, because these are Democrats. Everybody's assuming he would vote for Christie, but what people don't seem to be talking about is that voters are not a zero-sum pool. Do you understand?
"There are always voters who stay home, who say, 'I'm frustrated, I'm going to sit this one out," Woolley added. "If voters decide not to vote for Daggett, that doesn't mean they're going to vote for Christie, it just means they'll stay home. He's a reflection of people's discontent, not a pied piper. Remember, in our poll, there are three dramatically different results when you change the name of the independent candidate: he gets five percent when we don't mention him by name, 17 percent when we mention him by name, and 12 percent when we subbed in (another independent candidate) Gary Steele. That suggests to me the idea that people are taking less to Chris Daggett than to the word 'independent.'"
"If Daggett gets between eight and 15 points, he's costing Christie," said Patrick Murray, polling director for Monmouth University. "Below eight points, he takes away from both Corzine and Christie, and above 15 points, he starts taking away from Corzine. For Corzine, 12%, because that 39% of Corzine support has been pretty dang steady at this point."
Murray rejected the notion that Corzine's allies, chief among them Obama, will have no effect.
"Democrats approve of Obama by 87%, compared to 64% for Corzine, and what our polling is showing is that Democrats who might not have come out for Corzine are beginning to see this as a referendum on Obama, and they want to get out there and vote,"" Murray said.
Nonetheless, Steve Adubato, leader of Newark's North Ward Democratic Organization and a Corzine supporter, said, "Are you kidding me? You think I know who's going to win this election. We've never seen this before. I wouldn't bet a dime. You know why? Because of Chris Daggett."
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Christie was too arrogant
Here, READ THIS!:
The gubernatorial race is tied, according to a new Monmouth University/Gannett poll.
The poll shows Gov. Jon Corzine and Republican gubernatorial candidate Christopher Christie each getting 39%, while independent Christopher Daggett gets 14%.
A Monmouth poll from the beginning of this month showed Christie ahead of Corzine by three points - 43% to 40% -- with Daggett taking 8% of the vote.
Today's poll found that once reluctant Democrats are sticking with Corzine, but there may be some base trouble for Christie with the Republican base. Christie had 86% of Republicans' support in the poll released early in the month and has 81% of the base in todays. Corzine, who in July had 71% of Democrats' support, now has 76%.
THATS RIGHT ,CHRISITE WENT FROM 86% TO 81% !
LONEGAN SUPPORTERS HAVE HAD IT WITH HIS ARROGANCE. CHRISTIE HAS REFUSED TO CAMPAIGN WITH LONEGAN AND HE HAS REFUSED TO HAVE HIS SUPPORTERS AS PART OF HIS CAMPAIGN .
BY ELECTION DAY THAT 81% WILL BE DOWN EVEN FURTHER!
REPUBLICAN ESTABLISHMENT SCARED OF DAGGETT
Daggett ,not Christie is attracting Lonegans 140,000 primary voters. His mantra," its never wrong to vote for the right person"has resonated with the exiled Republican Lonegan voters.
Chrisite wanted no part of Lonegan or his supporters for 5 months. That decision will cost him the election.
Lonegan voters will come to the polls and they will vote the anti-establishment candidate.
Christie made a huge mistake by treating these people like 2nd class members of the Party.
The Monmouth poll does not lie ! Republican base support is leaving Chrisite. Those are the Lonegan voters and the trend will continue.
140,000 Republicans Don't like Chrisite
Does anyone think that this election will be decided by more than 140,000 votes.
That is how many people voted for Lonegan in June.These people never liked Chrisite and they certainly did not trust him. Instead of "making peace" after he won Christie treated them like mushrooms( feed the s**t and keep them in the dark).
He never campaigned with Lonegan and never acknowledged him as an important part of the Republican effort.
Now that Daggett is the anti-establishment candidate and he is attracting the anti-establishment Lonegan voters ,the smug Republicans are crying that a vote for Daggett is a wasted vote.
This is exactly what they said in June to the Lonegan voters!Now they have upset the same people twice.
Nice astroturfing
Shouldnt you be stroking off one of the Norcrosses?
Truth hurts GOPers
Conservative Lonegan voters are a very proud and dedicated group. Christie treated them as an afterthought.
They are now treating him like an afterthought. Lonegan and his supporters are only concerned with the $400 million bond issue in this election . Chrisite never asked for their help AND NOW HE IS LOSING BECAUSE HE IGNORED THESE DEDICATED CONSERVATIVE VOTERS.
This is what happens when you take people for granted ......
Most Lonegan voters are voting for Christie
Please stop pretending you're one, Mr. Lautenberg.
Polls Don't lie
Christie had 86% of Republicans' support in the poll released early in the month and has 81% of the base in todays. (Monmouth /Gannett poll)
Lost respect for politickernj
Every thing I have read on this site is clearly biased against Daggett.
I used to respect the news and articles on this site as fair and balanced. By taking sides and playing politics this site is alienating a very large base of its readers.
Anybody want to start a site that is not a GOP mouthpiece?
NJ Independents Do Debate Watch
The Star Ledger’s endorsement of independent candidate Chris Daggett brought to the fore what many New Jersey residents already know: the voting public is disgusted with politics as usual and looking for a change. Daggett’s participation in the recent debates with Christie and Corzine shows clearly that including an independent changes the conversation and makes it more positive. Daggett’s presence reminds us all that we’re not talking about a small segment of the population who is dissatisfied with the political process. Close to 50% of New Jersey voters are independent!
50 New Jersey independents participated in IndependentVoting.org’s New Jersey Debate Watch, as part of a focus group who watched the debate and answered a special survey designed for independents. Most everyone agreed that having an independent in the debate made a difference in terms of how the debate was conducted. Debate Watch was an opportunity for independents to have our say, and hopefully the beginning of an ongoing discussion among independents in NJ about what we need to do to change politics in the Garden State. The media often characterizes us as indecisive or as “leaners” to one party or the other, but many people are fed up with the partisanship and negativity of the current framework and are interested in participating in something new.
Regardless of the outcome on November 3, independents are becoming a growing force in New Jersey.
"Christie had 86% of
"Christie had 86% of Republicans' support in the poll released early in the month and has 81% of the base in todays."
What makes you think these are Loneganistas? More likely they are moderate to liberal republicans who are disgusted with Christie as a candidate and are moving to Daggett, as his increasing poll numbers would indicate.
http://christiegonewild.blogspot.com/
Turnout
Interesting opinion about the Lonegan supporters not voting for Christie -- we'll see if that pans out on Nov. 3. Equally as interesting is what kind of turnout the Ds can muster in Essex and Hudson counties -- the unseating of Senate Prez Dick Codey has split the party in Essex and Hudson has always had its various D factions and now Joe Doria's resignation from Corzine's cabinet. I don't sense D unity, and a groundswell of support, behind Corzine. Do many D loyalists stay home along with the Lonegan GOPers on Election Day?