Jon Corzine(D-Liar) when not in a scripted event, will proudly say what's on his mind---"UNIVERSAL EVERYTHING"...spend more and pay for everything through higher taxes.

It's no doubt that he's going back to his master plan---this guys proven over the years to think he's the smartest person in the room---taking little advice from others.

 It's one of the reasons the Goldman Sachs sent him on his way, and if the voters are smart they will send him packing as well.

I can't wait for the NY Times to release the tape with his exact words---then there will be no denying that the alleged "Wizard of Wall Street" is a unmitigated LIAR.

"Don't let facts get in the way"...Corzine '09

...then I've got a section of the Turnpike to sell you.

Fortunately, he ain't getting the chance. Tell the youngins', old-timers. Go on, tell 'em:

In New Jersey, anything less than a five-point race goes to the Democrats on turnout.

Sorry to spoil your last weekend, kids.

The only over/under left to figure out is how many pounds Chris Chris packs on after he loses on Tuesday.

Whatever about the toll hike, this statement from NY Times left me seething:

"Mr. Corzine seemed almost resentful that he was not more appreciated by voters..."

The arrogance of the man. If, and this is a big if, he gets in again he better show some humility to the voters who held their noses while casting a ballot for him and should show some gratitude to Chris Christie for being so unpalatable to people who might otherwise have voted for a republican - a moderate republican.

...I saw that as well. It goes on to to say "citing unsung accomplishments like the passage of a civil unions law, paid family leave and the abolition of the death penalty."

Maybe this is more telling than anything.

Regardless of how you feel about social issues like the death penalty and civil unions, people by and large elected Corzine cause he was "the guy who ran Goldman Sachs and will clean up our finances". That was supposed to be his M.O. -- to fix the state's abyssmal budget issues -- not crusade on other problems that arguably weren't as high up the list of priorities.

And while I appreciate the sentiment behind Paid Family Leave, it hasn't exactly helped our poor business climate and was done solely to placate the unions. Every business group in the state was against it and has made the state even more unattractive to outside businesses.

Unemployment has risen 5 points since he took office, our debt has increased, and NJ is still known as an anti-business state.  But worse than that, he has shown NO stomach in standing up to the teachers/state-worker unions that helped drive up local property and income taxes. 

I don't think Corzine is a bad man and I was really routing for him to use some of that Wall Street Wizardy to fix our financies. But with this record, he hasn't exactly done what we hired him to do.  

Regardless, I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens on Tuesday I guess...

Veritas vos Liberabit
"Collecting more taxes than absolutely necessary is legalized robbery." - Calvin Coolidge

Why is he an idiot? Because ONLY AN IDIOT would make such a statement days before an election crucial to his political life. "Asset Monetization" was the most controversial and most disliked aspect of his term and what does this moron do only days before the election? He doubles-down on it.

The Democrats can't even wait for the election to be over before selling all the assets in NJ. All of the big guns have their law firms lined up to cash in. I even read where the head honchos in Union County are aiming their guns at trying to sell the sewer authority and the Trash burner again.

Word of caution. Buyer beware

his own political survival....

and not ashamed to spend 23million dollars to do it. he gives new meaning to the word "loser"

We should raise the tolls and make the bennies and other out-of-state drivers share some of the state's financial burden.

http://christiegonewild.blogspot.com/

He sees how 101.5 has stretched Daggett saying he would consider a toll increase if and only if absolutely needed to refund the transportation fund.

On another note, It seems that the propaganda that a vote for Daggett is a wasted vote is backfiring on the GOP. With Daggett in the polls Christie is up by 3 points. Take Daggett out of the polls and Corzine is up by 6 points.

For Christie to win, he needs the Daggett supporters to keep sucking voters from Corzine. Currently Daggett is taking 2 voters from Corzine for everyone he takes from Christie

If you're afraid that a vote for Daggett is a Vote for Corzine, don't be because the polls show Daggett is hurting Corzine and putting Christie ahead.

See this Daggett Hurts Corzine and Helps Christie

You can be sure that you don't waste your vote by making the I'll vote for Dagget pledge.

The Daggett pledge is based on a simple premise, if enough people pledge their vote then you will vote for Daggett

Pledge your vote for Daggett at DaggettPledge.com

this message is approved by the reelection committee of Jon Corzine

alexhiggins732,

Last week you were trying to sell us the nonsense about Daggett having broken through some magical number that meant he was going to win.

This week, you're trying to sell us the hokum that the only way Chris Christie can win is if Chris Daggett stays in the race!

How pathetic! You're burned out. 

by Trochilus

Chris Daggett wants to pass an enormous hike in sales taxes on services that everyone uses -- most of which will end up being put on the backs of the trades in order to raise the kind of money he says he has to raise -- so he can then give some of it back to ease another tax burden.

That is not tax relief. That is a shell game -- a bunkum game. And because it will be put on the backs of the trades -- including carpenters, electricians, plumbers, etc., in addition to attorneys, accountants, and architects -- it will hit every one of the working people of the state.

Chris Daggett doesn't care about working people who are struggling to provide for their families in this state.

His so-called "plan" would further devastate an economy already reeling from Corzine's policies.

How stupid does this guy Daggett think we are?

by Trochilus

Once again, a vote for Chris Daggett is a vote for Jon Corzine.  If you want to allow others to decide who should be Governor for the next four years, then you can do one of two things:

Either don't vote, or vote for Chris Daggett.  Either way you will lose.

by Trochilus

Last time I drove up the Garden State Parkway there is a new lane of traffic being installed from Exit 58 to milepost 80 (in both directions) and an Express EZ Pass lane at the Barnegat toll plaza where, I imagine, SOME of the "Corslimes" here live.

Asset monetization is not an inherently negative thing. Commonly referred to in the real estate profession as a Ground Lease, it basically rents the property for a period of generally 99 years. But my guess is that we probably have a few too many Larry Kudlow listeners, like Cincinnatus,here to know that.

So now that we have established that half of you are ungrateful pricks and the other half are just plain ignorant that leaves Trochilus; who has very judiciously moved off topic and into TALKING POINT.

The real shell game here Trochilus is your political ideology: first you were against inter-racial marriage and now you're for it; it was fire and damnation for gay couples and now you really don't care; are you still peddling global warming as a hoax (Sunspots! LOL) or are you back in the "it's not man made" crowd; and last but not least Family Values, Shame, Shame.

But the list goes on: lowering taxes increases government revenue; allowing a tax break to expire is "rasing you taxes"; asset monetization is SELLING our assets and on and on and on.

People are not voting for Daggett to sink Christie any more than Ralph Nader voters wished eight years of GWB on US. But you keep up the fight Trochilus. Because YOU LIKE IT!

Best regards.

Can the DEMOCRATS and CORZINE do anything except figure out how to raise our taxes, how much more can we take, we already pay the highest taxes in the country. Were the garden state so lets clutter our roadways with big billboards, Corzine is the worst governor we have ever had.. damm bring back Florio!

GotKids II,

You say,

. . . first you were against inter-racial marriage and now you're for it; it was fire and damnation for gay couples and now you really don't care . . .

Really? Where did I address the topic of inter-racial marriage?

Ever?

When did I ever promote "fire and damnation" for gay couples?

Ever?

There is simply no other way to put it . . . you, sir, are a liar.

Now, I have addressed global warming in comments from time to time.  But not the way you suggest.  I am not an expert and don't pretend to be.

But over the past decade -- since 1998 -- it has somehow turned into a global cooling trend.

Try to understand that climate changes. It is the very nature of nature to change.  There have been a few times in the earth's history when the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere was several times what it is today, and yet the earth was going through an ice age.

The golbal warming extremists, like Al Gore, would like to convince people (and they've obviously Got You) that trace increases of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, are somehow going to be responsible for frying the planet and causing the waters to rise and drown us -- all over a few decades.

Gore has been spouting this nonsense since the late 1980s.  We should all be flooded out by now.  But time marches on and it is somehow cooler. 

Do me a favor.  Go to New York, and take a walk down by the wharves on the West Side. Look in the water. (Even though those wharves have been there a long, long time, you will have to look down.)

Is it flooding -- like Al said it would be by this time? No.

Have we had the huge increases in hurricane activity like he said we would? No.

I think you know why.  He is in the business of making money by scaring people.

Now don't you feel like a fool? Al doesn't know what he is talking about. He is a propagandist who has been cashing in by promoting a "Chicken Little" sky is falling scenario. 

He never has been very stable -- claims he invented the internet!

Reducing pollutants is a laudable goal, and I'm all for it.  But carbon dioxide is NOT a pollutant.  It is a naturally occurring gas that is absolutely essential for plants to "ingest."  And when they do so, they release oxygen.

by Trochilus

You know as well as I do that I was not referring to you personally, ergo, "your ideology." Which last I checked was firmly planted in movement conservativism; though I must admit it has been some time since I've visited your blog. If I offended you I apologize.

I think you owe me an apology for calling me a liar and a fool.

In the spirit of the day I'll settle for a little eye candy!

Trick or Treat?

New Jersey has the worst tax burden of any state in the entire nation. We are now number 50. And nearly 10% unemployment.

Jon Corzine and the Democrats in the Legislature put us there.

Maybe they thought that made us number one instead of dead last? Corzine picked up where Jim McGreevey and his substitute, Dick Codey, left off. So, reelecting him is simply beyond the pale for anyone with any common sense.

Cincinnatus, above, quite correctly points out that Jon was elected to straighten out the finances of the state. Corzine failed.

He proposed and promoted a "plan" that would have bankrupted the people of the state -- on top of leaving the State's finances in a complete shambles. Sensing the end of their reign of power, enough Democrats in the Legislature balked.

And, recall that Corzine also lied about giving property tax relief the last time he ran.

Remember his "40 in 4" plan? Somebody either a) forgot to remind him, or b) he was not telling the truth when he promised it.

Guess which one is the truth? Here's a hint: (The second letter in the alphabet.)

So we now have the most anti-business atmosphere anywhere in the nation, and the highest tax burden, including personal tax burden. And, we have a huge unemployment problem to boot.

Comes Chris Daggett with a tax-swap gimmick! The old robbing Peter to pay Paul game.

He would impose a huge new tax burden on businesses with his 7% service tax (or, would it be half that, but ONLY in the Urban Enterprise Zones) that would be imposed on professions, and on the trades, including plumbers, carpenters, hair dressers . . . you name it.  It is the only way he can get enough money.

But you know what . . . they become the tax collectors, because the fact is, everybody pays. Everybody.

Gosh, there is a novel idea!

Unemployment is nearly 10%, the current taxes are the highest in the nation. And some guy who can't even recall a single sitting member of the United States Supreme Court during the last debate, thinks that the way out is to create a whole new tax burden on working people, and to shift some -- but not all, over to property tax relief. A tax swap.

Corzine even gives Daggett a hat tip, saying that he's got a plan.

Must be a form of professional courtesy -- one politician acknowledges that another one thought of a strangulating tax he would have never had the nerve to propose on his own!

by Trochilus

GotKids II,

I cannot apologize for saying that you lied about me without being untruthful myself.

You were indeed referring to me because you specifically included me in that same exact sentence.

You said:

The real shell game here Trochilus is your political ideology: first you were against inter-racial marriage and now you're for it; it was fire and damnation for gay couples . . .

It went on, but you can't get much more specific, or personal than that!

But I will acknowledge that you retreated from your false personal accusation, which is more than most would do under the circumstances.

So, I am sorry that you decided to falsely accuse me of harboring views that I do not hold.  And I appreciate your quick retreat. 

As for my asking you if you don't feel like a fool regarding the huckster of our time, Al Gore, you seem to have indicated that you apparently do not. I'll let it go at that.

We are all concerned about the future. The Corzine "plans" for continuing to impose punishing tax and fee burdens on the people of the State, can only make things worse -- as nearly unimaginable as that might now seem.  The Daggett "tax swap" is just more of the same.  Smoke and mirrors.

by Trochilus

The campaign isn't even over and Chris Christie is already breaking his promises.

We've known all along that Chris Christie's plan for dealing with our state's budget is a fantasy -- that's exactly what the Star Ledger called it -- but we didn't expect that he'd break those empty promises even before the votes are counted.

Christie admitted in the New York Times that his entire campaign has been based on empty promises and failed economic policies.

In fact the only thing he will still do is give tax breaks to the very wealthy by breaking his promises to the middle class.

Christie now says he will not restore property tax rebates, contrary to what he promised.

Christie now says will not roll back the sales tax, contrary to what he promised.

Christie now says he will use "one-shot" revenues to close the budget deficit, contrary to what he promised.

Christie now says he will not reduce income taxes, contrary to what he promised.
The one promise he is sticking with is that he will hand out more tax breaks to big corporations and to the wealthiest, which will raise taxes on the middle class.

The truth is the only economic policies that Chris Christie is staying true to are the same failed economic policies that George W. Bush employed that got the country into this mess in the first place. And now he wants to bring them to New Jersey.

GotKidsII:

So now that you have at least momentarily suspended lying about me, you are instead reverting to shovelling more left-wing Democrat "talking pinks" at all of us?

Back to, "It's Bush's fault!" Well, I can point to a very compelling case that imposing considerable bad debt requirements onto the financial sector was what got us into the problems we're in.

And the Congress now is doing a re-rap on that one, as well as imposing a socialistic healthcare requirement on us all.

Trying to dig our way out of the hole with a tax spade and a borrowing shovel was and still is Jon Corzine's stupid solution for the utter shambles he and his immediate predecessor offered as the key to their government finance "solutions." Lying to us the last time is what got him elected in the wake of the disasterous McGreevey/Codey years.

Mr. Financial Genius, the one who never solved a thing!

You'd have to think his campaign message for the working people here in New Jersey should be:

"You make it; We'll take it! And, no come-backs!"

No thanks, GotKids. Corzine's entire campaign focus this year has been to use people like top advisor, nasty-boy Jamie Fox, to personally attack Chris Christie, while Corzine simultaneously allows Fox to tack year after year after year up in the financially beleagured state pension system, using a strictly part-time job.  Twelve thousand a year, sitting on the Local Finance Board with Susan Bass Levin, but given full medical benefits!! 

And what do they do?  They oversee the ethics laws of local governmental entities!  Ha!  Fox running the chicken coop.

So, I'm not alone in thinking that Jon Corzine is a serial corruptor. 

He is. And we've had enough!

by Trochilus

Oh, and what is all this latest Corzine scribbling about an 800% toll increase to pay for the third tunnel? Or, talking about bringing in some foreign operator to take over?

How come the "explanation" from his office, after the revelation of the signed document on 101.5 yesterday, doesn't seem to square with his latest "absolutely no toll increase" jabber?

Maybe we should refer to this new "plan" as: 

Jon Corzine's "Tunnel Vision for New Jersey?"

by Trochilus

Jon Corzine, who has been Gov. for four years amassed an $8BILLION defecit? That is ludicrous on its face. You want to go to the McGreevey well, fine, I didn't vote for McGreevey. I voted for Schundler.

Who started US down the road of amassing an $8BILLION defecit? ANOTHER CHRISTIE DID! That would be Christie Todd Whitman, with the bright idea of floating the state pension system.

And who sold the farm to state workers, now pensioneers to pad their campaign coffers and propel their politcal careers? I don't know, that wasn't on my watch.

But maybe a RETIRED STATE WORKER LIKE YOU (TROCHILUS) COULD TELL US?

GotKidsII,

Gee, looks like you must have enjoyed listening to "the name game" when you were a kid. How fascinating!

As for your comments, Jim McGreevey gave Jamie Fox his golden parachute when, just before leaving in disgrace, he appointed Fox as both the Deputy Director at the Port Authority job -- at an over $200 Grand salary, plus a huge housing allowance, and a gas credit card.

And he simultaneously appointed Fox to the the Local Finance Board, a strictly part-time gig, but having FULL medical benefits.

Corzine came in and gave Susan Bass Levin the same double-dipping gig, and he re-appointed Jamie Fox to the Local Public Finance board in 2007, allowing Fox to tack years and years onto his eventual State pension -- which will be very, very high because of his three years as the Chief of Staff to McGreevey.  If you think that's fine, that's your business.  In my opinion it is an egregious rip-off of the taxpayers, and of the state employees' retirement system. 

And because that part-time gig at the Local Finance Board comes with FULL medical benefits, once Fox tacks up enough years at his leisure, he will be able retire from the State with those full medical benefits, and an enormous pension.

For his part, Fox, whose day job now is consulting, comes into the Corzine campaign in August and oversees the Corzine Campaign's redirection to a completely ugly, nasty, let's get personal with Chris Christie campaign.

My point was simply that Jon Corzine is a willing enabler of corrupt practices.  He'll use Jamie Fox to direct the personal attacks, and Fox will be rewarded.

Corzine signed a very limited and prospective only "double dipper" bill into law, but appoints people to double dipper positions that short change the taxpayers.

I say, no more chump change!

by Trochilus

Sigh Trochilus, just SIGH!

Got Kids II,

Let me see if I can guess . . . the reason you are sighing, just sighing, is that all the talk about the enabling of corrupt practices by Jon Corzine reminded you of all the money that Corzine, the Corrupter- in-Chief, sent to convicted Democrat County Chairman, Joe Ferriero, over the years, no?

You remember, don't you? The more than $440,000.00 in political donations he sent to disgraced and criminally convicted former Bergen County Chairman, Joe Ferriero, and former  Bergen County state senator Joe Coniglio, also a recently convicted member of the county Democrat machine?

by Trochilus

You wrote "we all care about the future of NJ." and I'll take you at your word. But I've got to ask you how far out is your "future"? Is it 6 months, 2 years or just tomorrow?

I sigh Trochilus because you keep moving the ball. This stream was supposed to be about the idea of asset monetization and how it relates to the campaign for governor and that is a conversation I would like to have.

Instead we are served up your issue dejour; first Dagget, then taxes, Jamie Fox (I could care less about Jamie Fox) and now Bergen County. You want to win SO BAD you will kill an idea in it's crib. You want to win SO BAD that when I ask you a simple question about where to point the "guns" next you accuse me of name calling. You want to win SO BAD you will ignore history and twist the facts to the detriment of US ALL.

So I ask you Trochilus, how far out is your "future" and I hope you can muster an honest answer.

On the issue of Bergen County I posed this issue to the Governor MYSELF and I'll take LT. Governor Loretta Weinberg as the answer any day.

Why would a liberal like you ever work up the nerve to ask anyone how far out "the future" is?

You'll all still be blaming George Bush for everything you don't like when Americans begin the centennial celebration of the beginning of the twenty-first century!

Besides, it's really not about exactly when, but what kind of future we build.

As for this thread, Got Kids II, and speaking of assett monitization, you forgot to address Corzine's "secret toll increase plan" . . . you know his "tunnel vision for New Jersey?"

Now, I know that Jon Corzine has, over time, displayed a bad habit of "misspeaking" when it comes to his future plans for us -- e.g., "40 in 4" -- so we'll never know what his REAL plan is unless he somehow manages to buy himself re-election.

Fortunately, the breaking polls indicate that that may not materialize. Perhaps too many folks with a bad case of the first-term blues -- and a bad taste to boot!

by Trochilus

The FACTS are Jon Corzine and his policies HAVE put US in a position to maximize the national support of Clean/Renewable Energy, buffeted US against the worst economic collapse in recent US history and sought to ensure that each one of OUR children has access to healthcare and reaches their God given potential. If that's liberal, well then I guess I'm guilty.

Who started US down the road of amassing an $8BILLION defecit? ANOTHER CHRISTIE DID! That would be Christie Todd Whitman, with the bright idea of floating the state pension system.

And who sold the farm to state workers, now pensioneers to pad their campaign coffers and propel their politcal careers? I don't know, that wasn't on my watch.

But maybe a RETIRED STATE WORKER LIKE YOU (TROCHILUS) COULD TELL US?

Got Kids II,

You make it very apparent that you drink the Kool-Aid. You always have, as indicate in comment after comment you have posted here. That's your business. But please don't confuse your silly pipe dreams with the facts.

Try to understand that there are simply no "facts" demonstrating that Jon Corzine has put us in a position to maximize anything beneficial.

He has been a serial enabler throughout his tenure, and a corrupter who has used both his own money as well as state resources to compromise those around him.

In my opinion, Jon Corzine is a plutocrat -- in the worst sense of the word. And he is a user, whose negatives going into this election were so high that he had to secretly enter into a "deal" with a third candidate -- Chris Daggett -- in order to salvage his power.  We now know the fix was in.  Joe Cryan lied about it for a few days, but the basic story is there for anyone to see.

Corzine and his immediate predecesser, Jim McGreevey (and a more than willing Dick Codey), literally and figuratively had bankrupted this State over the past 8 years.

Christie Whitman did not run the Transportation Trust Fund into the ground; Jim McGreevey did.  And Corzine is now canabalizing the remaining resources -- such as with his asset monetization scam.  You have a huge toll increase in your future, and Jon is lying about it now.  You'd almost think, from the sources of the contributions he had to take this year, that Jon's real interest is in New York -- not New Jersey. 

Open and notorious corruption, most but not all of it Democrat, had infected our polity from institution to institution for years, including our public healthcare institutions, such as UMDNJ and Jersey City Medical Center. The recent history of those two institutions alone is the best imaginable argument against EVER having the government run our healthcare.  That is what you get.

How could anyone argue otherwise?

And in so many other areas, from county to county, and town to town, dozens of political criminals would still be in the driver's seat were it not for the performance -- 133 - 0 -- of Chris Christie and his team of crime fighters in the United States Attorney's Office over the past 9 years.

But both McGreevey and Corzine never laid a glove on them.  They were their friends!  How could they?

Jon Corzine was gifting Joe Ferriero and disgraces former Senator Joe Coniglio like he was their best friend.  At one point he was giving his mother money to give to them!  Remember the $37,000.00? 

No.  You don't do you?  It doesn't fit in your dreamworld.

Well, we have a chance with a new Governor to grow out of that cycle of corruption. But we stand no chance with Jon Corzine. He has just been the latest iteration of the problem.

by Trochilus

May the best man win.

TortureUS will surely have a retort.

Facts, Got Kids II, not just a retort.

Here, let me make it easy for you. 

I've said it before and I'll say it again.  They're not flirting.  They went and got a room! 

In fact, they're still at it! 

But in the morning, of course, they will expect the rest of us to pick up the tab!

by Trochilus

People, is this who you want celebrating tomorrow?

A HYPOCRITE who won't answer a simple question?

TortureUS always gets the last word!

Hey, thanks for the plug, Got Kids II.

Coming from you, I'll take the pejorative as a compliment.

Now, I think I'll take a walk down to the polling place and help pull the plug on Jon Corzine.

by Trochilus

Only an Authoritarian follower like you Troch would wear the brand of HYPOCRITE proudly.

Well, maybe you and... George Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Scooter Libby, Tom DeLay, Bill Frist, Newt Gingrich, Jack Abramoff, Karl Rove, Pat Robertson, Rush Limbaugh, etc., etc., etc.

Just remember that "pride cometh before the fall."

No, Got Kids II, what I said was that I take you calling me a name as a compliment.

By the way, what exactly is a "CHRISITIE" . . . now that you've parroted it about seven times in a row?

Your spell checker breaking down on you again?

Bummer!

by Trochilus

Well I guess it's just us. I think everyone else is tired of this thread by now. So the "Chrisitie" will have to stand. I don't feel comfortable editing mistakes like that.

Troch I really disagree with almost everything you write. But I do respect you and hope that one day, in some small way we can come to agree on something. Until then....YOU SUCK:) Good luck tonight and may the best man win.