is coming to Trenton!!!

We had a chance at "real hope & change", and everyone rejected it - Democrats and Republicans alike. Both decided to support the candidates that are puppets of party bosses, and that killed any possibility of "real hope & change" coming to Trenton.

Whether we support Corzine or Christie, it doesn't matter: a vote for either is a vote for big government, high taxes and things staying exactly the same.

You know where Corzine stands, and that the man is a Marxist. Nothing more needs to be said.

Christie made it clear in all of the debates and his speeches that he wants to keep things the way they are. He thinks the State Supreme Court is doing a fine job, and plans on reappointing everyone, including his good friend, uber-liberal Chief Justice Stuart Rabner. He plans on keeping COAH around, despite the fact that the mere notion of such a thing is flat-out INSANE. And he still can't think of anything that he wants to cut out of the state budget. Finally, while Corzine has George Norcross and Steve Adubato on speed dial, Christie will have George Gilmore, Tom Wilson and the other GOP power brokers. What's the difference?

Christie's litmus test is coming up. He has the chance to declare solidarity with the fiscal conservatives by selecting a Lt. Gov. that will allow them to come on board. And Steve Lonegan should have earned everyone's respect by now. The man did a tremendous job in spite of the fact that the deck was stacked against him. If Christie really wants to turn this state around, he has to appoint Lonegan to something: Lt. Gov., Treasurer, or some other high-ranking position. If not, it will confirm my suspicion that Christie is just another Whitman/Bush/McCain-esque RINO.

The poll does not show how many people are moving out because there is not a viable candidate for Governor that can do anything other than line the pockets of their friends with our money.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luA9yXzHKPs watch the youtube video on .... www.newjerseyfordummies.com

Chris Christie makes an appearance with Diane Allen. adding to speculation that Senator Allen is on his short list for Lt Governor. I do not want to think about what kind of engineering job it would take, to construct a stage to hold both Chris Christie and Diane Allen! Both would be great candidates, not for Governor, but for a Weight Watchers commercial!

Wow the looney Loneganites are still drinking the Kool-aid? Lonegan wasn't change it was more of the same!

Whay can't people ever start off some where smaller, make the changes, get known and move on to the better gigs?

If memory serves me correct (which it usually does), the first poll to come out in the Corzine/Forrester race after the '05 primary had Corzine up by seven points, 47% to 40%. This is a pretty substantial swing over the last four years.

Corzine and the Democrats have made it clear that he's going to take a page out of Lonegan's loser playbook by accusing him of being corrupt with no proof and attacking his stance on abortion, albeit from the opposite extreme, which is not a hot button issue that voters are focused on. He's also going to flood the airwaves with "George Bush, George Bush, George Bush." Unfortunately for Corzine, George Bush is not running for Governor.

Perhaps the funniest part of his reasoning for deserving a second term is, "Obama's President now and if you re-elect me, he's going to give us more money to burn while he's bankrupting the nation!"

Corzine will say and do anything to keep the focus off of his abismal record and that of Trenton Democrats.

A thirteen point lead in the polls is promising, but it's June and when you're up by thirteen, you work like you're down thirteen.

Steve Lonegan:

I'm still waiting for you Christieheads ... no, scratch that - I'm still waiting for Christie himself to explain what he's going to do to change Trenton.

All I know about him is what I heard in the debates, and it sounds like he has no gripes about New Jersey government. As I've said before, the man is out of touch. While McGreevey and Corzine were concocting plans to rape the taxpayers, Lonegan was at the frontline trying to battle them, and Christie was out to lunch ... literally and figuratively. This proves that Lonegan is a friend to taxpayers, and Christie only cares about himself.

But what bothers me the most about Christie (besides his obvious similarities to RINOs like Bush & McCain) is the fact that he finds no fault with the State Supreme Court. Lonegan & Merkt were going to replace everyone that they could, but Christie is taking the same exact stance as Corzine on this issue. Thanks to Christie, we will continue to see these corrupt hacks legislate from the bench and approve expensive mandates that will keep government spending and taxation high, and suffocate small business.

Christie has to prove that he won't be another Kean/Whitman/Bush in order to win over Lonegan supporters. He can accomplish this by making a commitment to deep cuts in government spending and by appointing a fiscal conservative as Lt. Gov. I'll say right now that if he picks Bill Baroni or Diane Allen, he will lose my vote for good.

Come november Corzine wins. He'll be ahead or tied in the polls by labor day

He did well in this primary and I think he'd beat the doddering moron McNerney.

RINO P Crocetti: I agree that the Dems blaming Bush for all of our problems is really a desperate reach. But you can't turn a blind eye to the fact that Christie has some issues that prove you would have to be a RINO to support him.

The no-bid contracts. The selective prosecutions, including turning a blind eye to George Gilmore's corrupt practices. Having a pension-padding campaign advisor. Christie's brother and his unscrupulous practices on Wall Street, and of course we can't forget his Goldman Sachs connection ... GS has given us complete boneheads like Hank Paulson, Jim Cramer, and of course, Jon Corzine. Finally, his dear friend, NJ Chief Justice Stu Rabner, is a parasite that is bleeding this state dry ... you really think Christie is going to remove him? Forget it! Everything here proves that he's no conservative, and thinks nothing of screwing over taxpayers.

Chris Christie: More patronage positions, more government spending, more laws designed to generate revenue, more taxes ... more of the same.

Christie = Whitman = Kean = Bush. Four years of Whitman/Kean/Bush politics will almost certainly give the Dems the Governor's chair right back. If he can't show a sign of solidarity with the fiscal conservatives and can't prove that he will be any different from these idiots, there's no way I'm voting for him.

It would be interesting to find out which one of your friends Chris locked up, Lib. You sound like you have a real axe to grind.

Steve Lonegan:

Mr. Christie is a great candidate. The Republicans need to run on a platform of individual responsibility and personal liberty. Tax cuts are fine, but I doubt you will receive many votes on promising to cut taxes across the board. But I will say Chris's speech the other night did touch upon one thing- "People don't want Government to hold their hands".

Jon Corzine thinks we need more Government. I think we need less. They (both political parties) scare us by saying god forbid we have to lay off teachers, police, or firemen. I say we have volunteer firemen in my town. Less cops means more freedom for the public. Less teachers means more money in the pockets of taxpayers to send their children to private schools and home school.

Christie's platform is to use Giuliani to send robocalls to seniors in my community to try to scare them. They are the vermin branch of the regular Republicans.

Everyone is moving out because Christie won. What a joke you have become. Liberty - thank you for stating the obvious - "everyone" voted against Lonegan. Time to move on. And Lonegan "deserves" everyone's respect? You don't deserve it - you earn it. He has been running for this office for the past 6 years and lost - yet again.

With the State GOP lead by a bunch blunderheads, with 5 months before the election, with Corzine ready to outspend Christie at a 6 to 1 rate, do you really think a 13 point lead means anything now? do not be so confident of a Christie victory......

Eveeryone is not moving ... just many of the high earners who are not tied here. NJ will be left with mostly liquor stores who trade food stamps for lottery tickets.

The guy should just hang it up. How many times does he need to lose before he gets the message??

I don't understand why he brags about his record in Bogota. The town is run down and the services (police and Fire buildings and facilities) are a joke. He tried to make English the official language of the Borough. With policy like that does anyone even know if he has the capacity to hold any office?

You want him to run for County Exec? haha The guy is way too out of touch for the voters of Bergen.

The race for governor is on and the knuckle heads are still bashing Steve Lonegan.

If you hate the guy that much, go to Bogota and knock on his door and tell him what you think and call it a day.
These postings are SOO Boring.

Here you have nearly 140,000 people who voted for Lonegan despite all the pressure and all of the establishment pushing for Christie and all he could get was 55%?

look at DeCroce and Rumana's pathetic numbers. These guys are a joke!

Dino, continue your trash talking against Lonegan. It will only hurt your boy Christie who was campaigning at a hot dog stand in Jersey City of all places on Wednesday?

What vote was he trying to reach? The last place Christie needs to be is at a hot dog stand stuffing his already fat face...

Why?

The Lonegan bashing needs to cease.

Vote Column - "A"- All the way!

the oc: Lonegan losing has nothing to do with his lack of viability as a candidate. If you looked at any polls that ranked the candidates on name recognition, Christie was always WAY ahead of Lonegan.

The GOP establishment stacked the deck against Lonegan. Starting with pathetic clown Tom Wilson begging for Christie to run, and going on to nearly every GOP State Senator (Steve Oroho being the one holdout) and every county organization giving him their backing, they made it impossible for anyone to mount an adequate challenge.

The establishment has repeatedly done this, not only in this race, but many others in the past.

Going back to polls: Many talk radio stations featured polls on their websites asking who they thought was the best candidate or who won debates. In most cases, Lonegan won hands down. It just goes to show that the more you knew, the more likely you were to support Lonegan. We were outnumbered by the people looking for government handouts, the establishment employees, the people that are completely satisfied with the way things are in New Jersey, and the uninformed.

A final analogy to put it all into perspective: Team Lonegan were Spartans going up against Team Christie's Persians.

Let the people decide. Instead of wasting all of your money on a primary, let the voters choose who the best candidate is and save it for the actual election. I'm not in favor of tons of laws and regulations, but campaign spending caps are a very good idea. I guarantee that the outcome of the primary would have been different if this were a level playing field.

Yeah, you're right, it wasn't a level playing field. Lonegan has been running for this office for about five years now. The very site you are on gave him a platform for a few years. If the senile folks at ELEC had understood Lonegan was the Executive Director of an issue advocacy group -- he never would have had any money to get off the ground.

On top of that, the Democrats spent over a $ million bashing Christie in hopes of hitting the jack pot and getting Lonegan. Still Lonegan lost by a landslide.

All this nonesense about Lonegan not being in the establishment is his own fault. He is a boor that few people, other than ideologues (paid or unpaid) can stomach being around. The guy has absolutely no talent other than figuring out how to gin up a mob of angry white guys on the internet.

His vocabulary is down there at about the seventh grade level. His business skills consist of picking up illegal aliens in Palisades Park to do work he can't get volunteers to do.

He and Rick Shaftan made money the old fashioned way. Squeezing it out of govenrment in the form of a statist campaign financing law.

He is a real bad professional candidate, and the more you bash Chris Christie, the more you should realize that Lonegan lost to the guy you claim is pretty bad.

Thank goodness government is big, because Lonegan gets more out of it than just about anybody. $ millions to pump up his name recognition, and when he was in Bogota he got more than a few establishment party hacks on the Bogota payroll as administrators, CFOs and lawyers.

I can't think of a more detestable low life politician that is not in jail already.

Property taxes are too high. The state education system is a told failure. The state is corrupt. For these reasons I hope CC beats JC. CC is much closer to having my political views than JC, but for me, the battle is mainly won already, Lonegan lost again. Whether it is CC or JC a semi-human will be in the governor's mansion instead of a freakazoid loudmouth, self-important, blowhard, rug-wearing, phony, potty mouth (see the CC clips of Anytown USA) dirtbag.

Yeah, Steve, as you say in the movie, we "should be kissing your butt for running this primary." I know you'd like that, but we are not interested.

In spite of all his detestable features, I wish Steve Lonegan the best. I just didn't want to inflict him on the state or the GOP. I think he may have a chance to grow into a normal human being if he crawls back to where he came from before he set his sights on political office outside of Bogota.

And if you Lonegan suck-ups wish to not vote or move out of the state, I won't lose a second of sleep over it.

PadrePeon: Of all the people on this board, you, CliffordCase and pablos3 seem to have some kind of axe to grind with Steve Lonegan that I just can't figure out. Were you fired from his company? Are you Tom Wilson or one of his associates? You clearly have something to hide.

Anyway, to your post:

Democrats bashing Christie in the primary could have been pure spin from the Christie camp. I think the Democrats wanted to face Christie because there is a LOT more that can be used against him than there is for Lonegan. I've got one word for you: BUSH. People will hear the constant Bush comparisons, and they will not support Christie. There was such a strong anti-Bush sentiment in the elections past year, which led to a full-fledged Marxist becoming our next President. Christie was a major fundraiser for Bush, and was appointed by Dubya himself to serve as U.S. Attorney - don't think for a second that the Corzine campaign won't use this against him.

As far as the shots at Lonegan's talent and vocabulary go: You did listen to some of the debates, didn't you? Lonegan was extremely quick on the draw and well-prepared, and answered most of the questions posed to him without dancing around them. Christie, who is becoming a better speaker, still did the occasional stammering and "humina humina humina", and pretty much every question answered was in platitudes. Sounded like the typical RINO that almost always loses ... Forrester, Zimmer, McCain, and all the rest.

Lonegan lost to Christie because it was a case of the Spartans vs. the Persians. Also because all most voters know about the candidates is what they see in their advertising. Few people really research the candidates even in this day and age of increased accessibility via the Internet, and even fewer come to websites like this one to discuss politics.

You can't think of more detestable politicians? How about Jon Corzine? Dick Codey? Any of these low life double-dippers? The only explanation I need to give is that they're exploiting taxpayer dollars to enrich themselves.

I've seen the clips from Anytown USA. Apparently you also have some holier-than-thou attitude also. So Steve used a few expletives - big deal. I can think of many worse things that happen every single day than that.

We supported Steve because of what he stood for, which is very much needed given New Jersey's terrible economic status: lower taxes, smaller government, answering to the taxpayers instead of Tom Wilson & George Gilmore, etc. Rick Merkt was also a good candidate that could have reformed Trenton. But in the end, we got Christie, a liberal, because people don't realize just how dire our situation is. They're too busy drinking Pepsi and eating Cheetos and watching Dancing With The Stars. Because of the ignorance of Christie voters, we know that things are never going to get better in New Jersey. We're always going to have high government spending, ridiculous taxes and laws, and a terrible business climate, because we keep on electing the wrong people ... Socialists like Florio, McGreevey & Corzine, and liberal Republicans like Kean & Whitman ... Christie is no different from the last two. That sound you heard Tuesday night when Lonegan conceded defeat? The last gasp of breath from small business in this state before it perished for good.

There are people on here who had a personal run-in with Lonegan. they won't admit to their real identities and they just make one nonsense post after another. I suspect some of them are just the same person with a mental problem who posts over and over.

As a registered Republican I will not vote for dishonesty anymore no matter what party they claim to be. Chritie has absolutely zero chance of getting me to vote for him ... and anyone else that leach Giuliani supports. I will either be writing in Lonegan or Uncle Floyd in November before I move out and take my small business with me.

"You can't think of more detestable politicians? How about Jon Corzine? Dick Codey? Any of these low life double-dippers? The only explanation I need to give is that they're exploiting taxpayer dollars to enrich themselves."

Corzine, the ex-marine, and Goldman Sachs chair, and Codey would neve lower themselves to picking up illegal aliens where day workers hang out.

I can't think of any pols that have used taxpayer dollars to the tune of $millions in the way that Lonegan and Shaftan have for their campaigns. I think it may be safe to say no politician in the history of NJ has received more taxpayer campaign finance dollars. Nobody knows if Lonegan is enriching himself, partly because unlike all other major candidates (including Merkt) he did not release his tax returns.

Pols with a vocabulary figure out something better to say when things are not going their way, than opinion polls are "retarded", or that Camden should be turned into a forest or looking for sympathy by referring back to his eye problems when the polls are sinking on him. I was not impressed with his debate skills. "I agree with Chris.", "Rabiner is the most liberal Justice in America", the cheap, phony "fist closed with thumb on top" Clintonian hand motion.

The Lonegan web site is still bashing CC to this minute.

There are states in worse shape than NJ: CA, NV, FL, MI, OH. Personally, I think the Boston to DC corridor is going to undergo a renaissance, while the sunbelt and mid-west rust belt states will lag behind. It isn't '80 or '94 anymore. It is clear to me that Lonegan hates cities and loves the suburbs. He does not understand that the burbs depend on the cities and not vice versa.

If Lonegan had some talent, he'd do better than a third tier college. He would not be able to get a law degree. Could not hack it. He wouldn't last a month at Goldman. His kitchen furnishings business had a very short success. He talks about employing people, but for how long? The irony is that your leader's core competency was knocking on doors and attacking other politicians, standard stuff.

Your leader supported Bush Jr. and McCain. I didn't vote for either one. I did vote for Reagan and Schundler and Buchanan and a Constitution Pary candidate and yes, Obama, because McCain would be Obama-lite. Open your eyes, Lonegan is just like all the rest. He did not support Ginty a couple of years ago and did not support Sabrin last year, instead he supported Penachio, who he now convenintly attacks some guy getting 3000 on Jersey Joe's payroll. He turns left when he perceives it is in his best interest. No NJ politician I know of was caught in such obvious lies as he was when he had the mutliple stories about his illegal alien buddies in his garage. The guy is a bottom feeder who acts very arrogantly when things go his way, and somehow expects sympathy when they don't.

I may not go as far as Christie in calling him a "good man", and I doubt I will vote for him. I disagree with him on most issues, but there is no need to get vitriolic, just because of philosophical disagreements.

Look at Collins and Gallic and even Dino, all who were Lonegan supporters and this year apparently had enough of Lonegan. Lonegan and Shaftan go too negative in all their campaigns.

They were that way this year with Christie, DeCroce, Giuliani, Kean, Whitman, Forbes -- everybody who endorsed the wrong candidate was basically evil, looking for a job, etc. They were that way with Schundler in 2005. They are like the boy who cried "wolf". Not believeable. DeCroce was supposed to lose, right? He didn't. Maybe some things Lonegan and Shaftan say or predict are true, but they only hurt themselves going over the top all the time. Each false claim, only detracts from the occasional true one.

Apparently, Lonegan has been that way since his very first campaign. I'll admit my rhetoric regarding Lonegan is pretty severe, but once again, what other politician (even in NJ) dishes it out like he does? You reap what you sow.

Anyway, I didn't bring him up on this thread, but it sure is hillarious that every single conversation here has to turn back to this creepy self-promoter.

Like we are going to read these long posts.

I think Padre was that illegal alien that got caught trying to get a job with Lonegan and now he is pissed.

Steve Lonegan ran a great campaign and represented the extreme conservative side of the NJ Republican party incredibly well. His concession speech was one, that all NJ Republicans should rally around. It's sad that people like Russ continue to carry the venom and rhetoric, hopefully that will fade with time.  He should do what he would expect Christie supporters to have done if Steve had won. On to Victory in November.

Don't let the door hit you on your way out. Additionally the illegal alien GOT a job from Lonegan. It was Lonegan who came up to him. Cry some more for me as you cross over the river to PA.

Spartans vs Persians? More like electable vs unelectable. The voters DID speak. Didn't you see the headlines? Christie won. Time to move on to the general.

Christie people still feeling the need to box with Lonegan. Good. It doesn't hurt Lonegan, guys! Keep us sharp on this side, because WE are 42% of any possible vote you have in November. And most of us still have enough principles left that we would sooner support a truthful Dem than a lying Republican. Corzine is going to eat Christie for breakfast, and WE have been invited. Hmmmm...what to do?

BTW: you really DO have a personal thing going here against Lonegan, don't you, "padre"? Pretty obvious when your repeated tirades continue to be about Lonegan's bad hair day, his staff people, his business, his schooling, la,la,la, or even purporting to know how he utilized campaign funds. Maybe you are just an old angry and fired past employee, huh?

It figures - another RINO who would rather see a Dem in office than the party's nominee. Why doesn't this surprise me? And the Lonegan supporters claimed that it would be the Christie backers who would support a Dem. Good one.

Delighted to see that Driscoll kicked your butt in Bergen and especially in Mahwah.

Both you and Dino wont get any support in Nov from regular republicans. You might as well quit now.

posted by DinoPCrocetti

If memory serves me correct (which it usually does), the first poll to come out in the Corzine/Forrester race after the '05 primary had Corzine up by seven points, 47% to 40%. This is a pretty substantial swing over the last four years.
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Yup.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Congressional/NJ_Gov_05.html

Don't try to turn it around on registered Republicans who aren't supporting Christie.

Christie doesn't represent us. He has an (R) after his name, but he doesn't believe in what we do: lower taxes, limited government, more personal freedom and responsibility. He believes in the opposite of all these things: keeping Corzine's taxes in place, cutting spending with a tiny pair of scissors instead of a chainsaw, and continuing COAH and that government Ponzi scheme ... property tax rebates.

Try as I might, I don't understand it ... $40 BILLION in debt, extremely high and destructive property and business taxes, bloated government - and then we nominate the kind of candidate that history has shown will only add to all of those things.

Christie once stated in an interview "I'm not a Christie Whitman Republican", but was quick to reply that he didn't mean that as an insult. So far, his platform is no different from what big spending RINOs Kean and Whitman had to offer. Yes, he probably can't be any worse than Corzine, but our state deserves far better than this. Unless Christie can prove he won't be a Wilson/Gilmore puppet and will bring a fiscal conservative approach to Trenton, I won't be voting for him. No more "lesser of two evils" votes for me.

Maybe someone can answer this question for me, because this happens not only in New Jersey, but everywhere: Why do Republicans have to compromise their beliefs? Democrats have not given an inch the other way; if anything, they've only become more extreme over the years. "Republicans" now are basically what Democrats used to be: a party of entitlements, sweetheart deals, spending increases, etc. ... only it's a bit more restrained than where the Democrats currently stand.

Think about the foundation that the GOP was built on ... lower taxes, limited government, more personal freedom and responsibility. For some reason, we have moved far away from that over the years. And it's unfortunate, because voters respond to that kind of attitude with apathy ... they feel like they're not being given a choice because the Democrat and the "Republican" are so similar.

What have we gained from Republicans becoming a left-of-center party? Well, we had a very unpopular President who dragged the GOP through the mud and paved the way for a Marxist to get elected, and plenty of Democrats to win Senate and House seats. Also, remember that the Democrats are very close to a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate, and when you include Sens. Collins and Snowe of Maine, who vote with the Dems most of the time in spite of their party affiliation, they're already there.

So there you have it. Many so-called "moderates" lead to low voter turnouts and get trounced in elections (Franks, Forrester, Zimmer, McCain, etc.). And the ones that do get in wind up extremely unpopular and pave the way for Democrats to take over (Kean, Whitman, Bush 41 & 43).

McCain didn't inspire people because he came off as someone who would represent four more years of Bush ... that along with the media's love affair with Obama made the writing on the wall clear as soon as the primaries were over. If Ron Paul had been our candidate, he would have provided a stark contrast not only from Obama's Marxist brand of politics, but also from the runaway spending of the Bush years.

We have something similar happening in New Jersey. In the race for Governor, we opted for McCain (Christie) over Paul (Lonegan). And much like McCain did on a national level, Christie offers nothing different from the last few "Republican" Governors in New Jersey. Christie has shown that he is a tax hiker from his time as a freeholder, and he revealed himself as someone who disrespects taxpayers by handing out tons of no-bid contracts. That, along with his current platform, is all the proof we need that he is a Bush/McCain/Kean/Whitman "Republican" who won't bring about the changes that we so desperately need.

I predict that unless we can get a heavy anti-Corzine turnout (much like the anti-Bush vote last year) or a strong independent candidate emerges, Corzine will cruise to re-election this year.

PadrePeon: I think you may be right about a couple of states being in worse shape than New Jersey, but I really doubt Nevada and Florida are among them.

Nevada, with its statewide legalized gambling and prostitution, is a pro-business, pretty much Libertarian state. If the state is struggling, no one ever talks about it.

Florida also has a reputation for being pro-business, but it's also a state with a high population of senior citizens on fixed incomes. And let's not forget that it's been under the leadership of noted RINOs over the last few years in Jeb Bush and Charlie Crist, so that likely has something to do with it. But again, Florida having financial struggles is news to me. I think you pulled both Nevada and Florida out of the air.

Your whining has officially fallen on deaf ears. You claim to be a Republican yet you refuse to vote for the person whom the majority of people wanted. I love the take my ball and run home mentality. If you don't vote, you have no right to complain after November. The only person running in the GOP primary who advocated raising taxes was Lonegan - that came from him and his campaign, not Christie. His campaign said 40-50% of the people in the state would see higher taxes under his plan. But according to you real Republicans wanted "lower taxes". So how could you support Lonegan? Do as I say, not as I do? Maybe hypocrisy? How about Jim Jones syndrome? Face it - your guy lost. Get over it, move on, and do me a favor - don't let the door hit you on the way out of the party's door.

"The poll does not show how many people are moving out because there is not a viable candidate for Governor that can do anything other than line the pockets of their friends with our money."

You're still here.

"Come november Corzine wins. He'll be ahead or tied in the polls by labor day"

Christie got his post-primary bounce. I think Christie settles into a smaller lead by labor day, whiuch Corzine will chip away at by November.

Corzine wins, but not by much.

"Come november Corzine wins.
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posted by CliffordCase

"Come november Corzine wins. He'll be ahead or tied in the polls by labor day"

Christie got his post-primary bounce. I think Christie settles into a smaller lead by labor day, whiuch Corzine will chip away at by November.

Corzine wins, but not by much.
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One poll doesn't usually indicate a full, post-primary bounce. See what places like Quinnipiac, Monmouth, PPP and the rest come out with when they release their first post-primary polling data. Corzine hasn't held a lead in the polls for almost six months.

Also, the unemployment rates came out today. That's not factored in. Every time unemployment goes up, that's bad news for Corzine. This effort by Corzine to link Christie to Bush is beyond pathetic. He's trying to nationalize the election and his campaign kick off speech where he invoked the war in Iraq, said it all. What does Christie have to do with the war in Iraq? He mentioned the recession, but Corzine is the one with the Wall street connections. It just came off as really desperate.

"I will either be writing in Lonegan or Uncle Floyd in November before I move out and take my small business with me."

 Why bother?  I should think you would be long gone by then.  I know if I was serious about moving out I would not be wasting my time posting silly comments on this or any other website.   

"Keep us sharp on this side, because WE are 42% of any possible vote you have in November."

Christie's not the only one who can't do math. Lonegan received close to 150,000 votes, or 42% of the roughly 30% of registered Republicans who turned out. That means Lonegan got about 15% of registered Republicans. Since Republicans comprise about one-fourth of all regustered voters, Lonegan's share of any "possible vote" is about 4%.

Of course, in a close race this number could still be significant. But only a wingnut with serious delusions of self-importance could imagine that most Lonegan voters will prefer Corzine to Christie or remain indifferent.

Both Tom Kean Sr and Christie Whitman were probably our most popular Governors. And both have high approval ratings. As did Don Difrancesco had high approval ratings.

Chris Christie is a great candidate, also. As long as he doesn't go from being pro life to pro choice over night. And he doesn't choose Tom Kean Jr as his LG. People like Kean Jr is what costs our party. He is NOT his father.

And like many of the editorials have stated: Make this election about ideas, not attack ads. Republicans have health insurance programs in other states that are working like MA. Lets try to see what works in other states and apply them to NJ.

I'll give you Kean as being one of the better Governors we've had in the last 30-40 years ... truth be told, I think they've all been abysmal, so he's among the lesser of all the evils.

The only reason Whitman was popular was because she followed through on her promise of tax cuts. Unfortunately, much like the man that appointed her to head the EPA, she also sent spending through the roof. Of course, most people were oblivious to the fact that we were spending money that we didn't have, so the only side of Whitman they got to see was the tax cuts.

Whitman raided the pension, spent $500 million just to keep tolls on NJ highways by installing E-Z Pass, and if memory serves me correctly, she was the Governor that signed off on the plan to give $8 BILLION to Schools Construction Corp., doing so with zero oversight, which enabled them to spend the money as they wanted to.

After Corzine, Whitman is the Governor that added the most to our state debt ... absolutely pathetic and shameful coming from a so-called "Republican". And fellow RINO DiFrancesco tacked on a surprising amount of debt in a very brief period of time ... it frightens me to think of what he would have done if he had been given a full term.

Just look at what gets stated from the likes of Paramus. Let's not come together, let's figure out ways to divide the candidates. Mr. Miller when was the last election either you or Driscoll ever won. Neither one of you are pillars or text books when it comes to how you win elections. What should be going on is uniting Driscoll and Hermansen not trying to figure out how you divide them. The democrats will try to a good job of this come Nov. Looks like Paramus wants to give them a head start. Sure looks like Driscoll had a lot of bullet votes in the primary. Remember what was good for Driscoll in the primary may not be a good idea for him in Nov. Who set up bullet voting plan Paramus? That person should have their head examined. Paramus best chance in years to win and you are concerned how the Primary vote came out. Yudin must be so proud of you.

The poll that the article quotes is part of an old NJ pattern.  Folks are correct to discount it.

I agree that Christie is a conventional petty corrupt partisan Bush hack and that Corzine will win in any conventional political campaign. By conventional I mean one in which both candidates go negative.

Corzine is flawed, but Chritie is far more flawed......so, in that sense, the Lonegan diehards are correct.

The fact is that the political/economic establishments (of BOTH parties) are legally corrupt to the core! So long as the legalized bribery of pay to play is the driving "principle" for the concoction of public policy/laws we are all fucked.

Corzine wins a conventional campaign by 2 to 5 points; but if he were to adopt an aggressively progressive/populist agenda he would win by 20 to 25 points against an unprincipled bum like Christie.

The current polls are part of a NJ pattern. Folks don't like the status quo; but they do NOT want to elect George Bush the second as governor, and that's what Christie is.

Hell, if Christie were really an honest man with balls he would have aggressively used the RICO statutes and there would have been as many as 5000 convictions throughout the political and commercial establishments of NJ. As it is he went after the low hanging rotten fruit and the stupid assholes.  Not good enough Mr Christie.

At least with Corzine there is the possiblilty of some progressive change, with Christie we lock in the Bush/Ashcroft/Gonzalez regime....and virtually no one wants to go back there.

A poll run by an overtly Right-leaning, anti gay rights religious zealot showed that the Republican candidate is leading the liberal Democrat!

Who woulda thunk it?

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