beware who you invite on to your FACEBOOK. They just might stab you in the back

How come Shaftan's name is being mentioned more than the candidate he is working for over the past several weeks? Is it any wonder that Shaftan is the Skipper of the SS Minnow-Lonegan? It appears that he is more interested in getting HIS name out in public than his boss'. Good work Mountaintop.

This is a typical diverionary tactic that the Christie people should avoid being baited into.

I'll say it one more time: Read Paul Mulshine's from Sunday's Star-Ledger and
learn why the liberal republican clique that runs the NJGOP has got to go if this state is going to be salvaged....

I have no interest in talking to Todd Christie or anyone else with that operation.

Stepien's lies are not surprising considering he is working for Chris Christie who pled guilty to libeling other Republicans and was forced to take out full page ads in the Star-Ledger and Daily Record apologizing.

However, the Christie campaign has yet to point out one thing Lonegan has said about Christie that isn't true...not one.

Todd Christie is a Country Club Thug who thinks he is better than anyone else because he can throw money around. Anyone who doesn't think this "we're going to get you" line hasn't been repeated dozens -- maybe even hundreds of times -- by Christie and their goon squad -- is very naive.

How can you come on here and LIE like that? You obviously DID talk to him via Facebook and you have the audacity to come on here and call someone else a liar? You and your sleaze campaign have done nothing but send out false and misleading information about Chris Christie AND his family. Again, the hypocrisy you show is telling as to why you have sunk Lonegan's campaign. Congratulations, Rick. You are the reason Lonegan is unelectable.

Ya know, Todd obviously made a bad judgement in engaging this guy whose sole purpose in life is to convince Lonegan he has a chance of winning so he can collect the consulting fees.

But any man knows that if a guy like Shaftan who has accomplished nothing more than living off candidates he knew was going to lose was prodding any one of us, we probably would have reacted the same way.

The fact is that Todd Christie was never indicted in anything. With politics and big business and the right amount of opposition research spun the right way, we can make anyone look crooked.

Notice how Shaftan made it a point to say, "We’re not saying he’s guilty of anything, or has done anything wrong." I have a hunch his lawyer might have told him to throw that in there.

Lonegan doesn't stand a chance and everyone knows it. They're so desperate to knock off Christie and the lesser opponents under the delusion that he can actually win in November. If he gets the nomination, we'll be stuck with another 4 years of Corslime!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Has there ever been a political analyst who hasn't been quoted as saying anything but the obvious? Folks who wonder why NJ students will pay twice as much to obtain a degree from out of state as they would staying in-state need look no further than the profundity of the apparent that is Ms. Harrison.

I have to go with Shaftan on this one. There is simply no justification or excuse for that kind of email. I took it as a threat, in fact it's a line that's been used in alot of gangster movies. Specifically, there was a scene in the movie "FIST" where Stallone plays a union leader being threatened by a company lawyer with the same line. Similar lines have been used in other movies.

Shaftan is a political lowlife who feeds off these taxpayer funded campaigns. But Todd Christie is as dumb as Shaftan is despicable. To even engage in any exchange or discussion, and then make these kinds of threat, no matter what the provocation, is so incredibly stupid there are no adequate words to describe it. Now Chris Christie really needs to distance himself from his brother, and I think Shaftan seriously needs to consider exercising his second amendment rights that he and Lonegan make such a big deal about.

"Where's Johnny?"

Not saying anything about the substance of the messages. I could care less. They can go at it like two schoolgirls for all I care. My issue is Shaftan calling someone a liar in the same post where he states "I have no interest in talking to Todd Christie or anyone else with that operation." That is an obvious lie. He TALKED to Todd via email on more than one occasion. In fact, the first comment Shaftan claims was made to him actually wasn't - it was made directly to Lonegan according to the story. Shaftan inserted himself into the conversation, and yes, initiated the direct conversation between and Todd and himself. All of his awful spinning won't help him. He has personally sunk Lonegan's campaign.

So, we learned this week that Lonegan mails out cash taken from his campaign accounts to his 'supporters.' (http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/04/gop_candidate_steve_lonegan_ma....)

Supposedly to 'entice them to respond' to his fundraising requests. I figure the scam works like this: After receiving their dollar in the mail, the 'supporter' mails the cash back to him, and he deposits it. Then the State of New Jersey matches the deposits 2-to-1. So, $1 becomes $3 (less cost of postage). Do this a few times, starting with a ten thousand dollars, and it really adds up.

How is that not stealing, exactly?

....pay to play is dirty. The dirt is obvious and the stench permeates the deal in question.

The fact that it is likely "perfectly legal" just makes it all the more offensive in the eyes (and noses) of ordinary voters.

Both parties are full of shit on this issue.

If Chris Christie had any balls or brains he would admit that the status quo legalizes bribery and he would come out for radical root to branch reforms that would allow for more public financing of campaigns (with matching funds to offset millionaire self funding) and reforms that would criminalize pay to play across the board.

My agenda? To raise the visiblilty of pay to play legalized corruption/bribery and to go to more public financing of campaigns.

All New Jerseyans are suffering under laws and regulations and "customs" that screw them left and right.

If Christie had REALLY done his jobe he would have had 3000 convictions (of course he would have been fired if he were that good).

Meanwhile, "Todd" comes across as frothing...maybe Lonegan should hire some security?

From Frederick Douglass

If there is no struggle there is no progress......Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will.

Although no fan of Lonegan and his crew, I can't help but thinking of Tony Soprano everytime I see Christie. His brother's antics about "payback" just adds to it.
That's not a value judgement by the way. Some people might admire Tony Soprano...it's just what pops to mind when I see him.

"My issue is Shaftan calling someone a liar"

Calling someone a liar, whether justified or not, is perfectly legal and perhaps appropriate under the right circumstances. What may not be legal, and is definitely inappropriate, is making the kind of implied statement that some may reasonably regard as a terroristic threat.

Whether you're pro-Christie or pro-Lonegan or whatever, can anyone doubt that if a close relative of Sharpe James or Wayne Bryant had sent the exact same email to Chris Christie he would have immediately referred it to the appropriate authorities for investigation. In fact, if someone sent the exact same email to Barack Obama, does anyone doubt they would get a prompt visit by the Secret Service.

My advice to Rick Shaftan, as much as I despise him and those like him, is to milk this for what it's worth. Shaftan has every right to file a criminal complaint against Todd Christie and let the authorities determine whether the email contains a terroristic threat that is prosecutable.

If nothing else Shaftan also has the right to seek a restraining order against Todd Christie, and I hope he does. This goes beyond politics, as far as I am concerned.

Is it true? Also, how does the media have access to "private facebook messages?"

“When I threaten people, I do it face-to-face -- never in writing,” joked Shaftan.

I don't think that is a joke.

If Todd Christie reminds Lonegan's Tony Roach like goons of Tony Soprano, then Steve Lonegan reminds me of John Gotti. "That's not a value judgement by the way. Some people might admire" John Gotti...it's just what pops to mind when I see Lonegan.

According to a May 16, 2006 Record article, a Bogota police officer filed a suit on Monday May 15th, 2006, which names Bogota, and a Bogota disciplinary hearing panel that Lonegan participated on as defendants.

The suit alleged that two members (then mayor Steve Lonegan and a council member) of the hearing panel violated ethics laws by asking the officer for political favors while the hearing was ongoing.

"The penalty (a two-month suspension) was imposed by a corrupted hearing panel whose members were more interested in obtaining political favors from [the police officer, I am revieing the officer's name to protect an innocent man] then in fairly and impartially reviewing the evidence presented," Creange's lawyer said, as quoted in the May Record article.

The hearing panel included Lonegan and four councilmembers, one of whom voted against the suspension.

The complaint alleged that Lonegan asked the police officer to convince a resident not to run for a Republican County Committee seat against another member of the hearing panel who was also a council member, and her husband, and that the officer replied that he would not "strong arm" anyone into not running for elected office.

The suit purported that a council member told the police officer that he would hurt her chances at reelection if he campainged against then Council President George Shalhoub, in that fall's election. The hearing panel meted out a two-month suspension and physical and psychological testing.

According to a June 27, 2006 Record story, in June of 2006 State Superior Court Judge Jonathan Harris ruled that the police officer did not have to undergo physical and psychological testing before returning to duty. The judge also questioned whether a disciplinary panel and four current and former Borough Council members gave the Officer a fair hearing.

As stated above, the Officer's suit alleged that the hearing panel was biased because two members, then mayor Steve Lonegan and a council member, asked the Police Officer for political favors while the hearing was ongoing.

According to the June 2006 Record article, Lonegan and the council member denied they asked for favors, but acknowledged speaking with Creange about local politics.

According to the June 2006 Record article, Judge Harris said the fact that Lonegan and the council member conversed with the Police Officer about politics while sitting in judgment was "disturbing" regardless of whether any favors were requested.

"Two of the decision makers engaged in discussions with [the Police Officer, again I am withholding his name to protect the innocent] about things near and dear to the hearts of these decision-makers," Judge Harris said, "This raises a specter that the hearing panel may not have had the due process one might expect." -- as quoted in the June 27, 2006 Record article.

After roughly 18 months of legal wrangling Bogota paid the Officer for the two-months that he was suspended. In other words, kind of like asking Lonegan's Bogota taxpayers to foot a two month extra paid vacation for the Officer. However, the hearing was done over with a Borough picked arbitrator. In the end the Officer received a verbal reprimand and no suspension at all.

The cost to Lonegan's Bogota taxpayers so far was lawyers for two seperate disciplinary hearing panels, and a lawsuit. Subsequently, the Officer brough on a second suit that is also costing Lonegan's Bogota taxpayers money. I think that the suit is likely to be heard sometime after the primary eletion that Lonegan is likely to lose before he loses the suit as well. I would not be surprised if total legal bills and judgments for all sides put together will run over one million dollars. Most of the property tax increases arising from the Lonegan related legal fiasco occured after Lonegan left office and everyone of his Bogota Republican council member allies was voted out in favor of Democrats.

My opinion is that Lonegan may have "threatened somebody" but true to form, not in writing. If there is a real gangster like goon in this race, he is not in the Christie camp.

BTW, it is at least possible that criminal law may be a factor in Lonegan's future as well.

All this proves is that Todd Christie is too dumb to realize he comes across as the Billy Carter or Roger Clinton of NJ politics!

Why is he contacting the pollster for Mayor Lonegan? What possible good would that serve his brother's interests?

It's becoming more and more apparent that this "one-note" candidacy of crime fighting is just that -- one note! Mr. Christie in my opinion has failed to explain his associations with these legal firms who received no-bid contracts and are now showering his campaign with donations!

Mr. Christie has been a protected candidacy that isn't up to the rigor of full political engagement! Mr. Shaftan made his brother look incredibly foolish and Mr. Christie would be wise to get his brother out of the political spotlight.

Christie is a bumbling, stumbling, message-less, rudderless effort that is grinding to a halt. Mayor Lonegan is clearly the better candidate for rational Republicans who finally want to win come the fall.

Vote Column "A" - All the way!

I can see PadrePeon was offended by my comparison of Christie to Tony Soprano. As I had stated, I am no fan of Lonegan . I was merely pointing out that Christie physically looks a bit like Soprano and his brother's actions just re enforced that impression in me. That's all.
So PadrePeon, I am not part of the Lonegan camp and can't even believe someone like him is running for governor. I used to live in the 9th CD near Bogota, I know all about his antics while his was mayor. Looking at recent election returns looks like he turned that town reliably Democratic-as you point out.
By the way I live in California where we have our own nut jobs....

psp -- ok, a politician is a pol in CA or NJ.

BergenRuiz is right on the money (no pun intended). Lonegan is pushing and stuffing the envelopes. Basically, the entire taxpayer government funded election thing alows creeps like Shaftan to legally arbitrage against taxpayers to the benefit of his campaign. Without matching money, Lonegan would be Merkt.

Lonegan is by far and away the least transparent candidate in the race.

He is not releasing the names of many of his donors.

Unlike Christie, Corzine or Merkt, Lonegan is not releasing his tax returns. I think the goon has something to hide.

According to today's record, in a rare moment of candor, Shaftan said Lonegan "just doesn't want to talk about" his non-releasing of his tax returns.

Release them Rick. By the way you should release yours as well.

Well, voters will want to talk about it until they are blue in the face.

Release the tax returns.

Release the tax returns.

Be transparent.

How will you run a transparent government, if you can't run a transparent campaign.

Release the tax returns.

How is that not stealing, exactly?

Isn't that the purpose of government? To extort a dollar from person A and give it to person B?

Now through the magic of legislation, private citizens can partake in the rape every 4 years around.

Everyone should run for Governor.

I have had running arguments with Cliffy on virtually every word he has written on other columns. However, I think he is dead on with both of his posts on this one. ps: no pun intended on the "dead on".

Sometimes no matter who you are the truth speaks for itself.

In a single e-mail exchange he did what no one from Moses to Mohammed to L. Ron Hubbard has been able to do -- make Rick Shaftan into a sympathetic figure. Maybe for his next miracle he can turn water into wine or walk on water.

Unfortunatey, the only other miracle his threats will produce is getting the other JC re-elected.

Snake Pliskin?  I heard you were dead.

This is nothing compared to what's coming up."

Shaftan should take some of his own BS twisted advice. Lighten up and thicken your skin. If you dish, you should be able to take.

I think "this is nothing compared to what's coming" is as much a threat as "payback comes in many forms."

“This is fun for you messing with peoples lives. Payback comes in many forms,,,,at any time. Enjoy.”

As usual the Lonegan camp has double standards and is totally hypocritical. Hamnegger's fake surprise at agreeing with Cliff is BS, hamnegger is a Lonegan "friend" who toes the line 100% of the time.

Stevie, release your tax returns. Release your campaign donor names. Hiding something?

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