Shaftan is a reprehensible human being and by Lonegan backing him he has dropped into the gutter as well. Shame on both of them.  Sending out negative mailings, and having assistants make robo calls with VERY bad NJ accents.  The articles that they reference in the mailings are laughable.  Their conclusions from the articles are distortions at best, and outright lies in others.  Maybe that's why they have lost two campaign managers--no one with a conscience can stomach working for these two extremeists. Their campaign is a joke...a sad joke on the taxpayers who have to match their fundraising.  We deserve better.

I hate to say it, but Lonegan's campaign is even more pathetic than Sabrin's campaign. Lonegan would be wise to hand Shaftan a pink slip.

I guess there is no chance for unity after this primary. Cardinale of all people should understand bare knuckle politics.

So this is it folks we will have a combination of the Forrester and Kean Jr repeat part deux this fall. 25-30% of the Republican Party will be staying home.

The guy works for North Arlington Democrats and HUDSON COUNTY DEMOCRAT Senator Nick Sacco. He's involved for one reason and one reason only: muck it up and create discord in the GOP. WIse up folks.

I'm just saying ... Rick's actions have done more to harm Lonegan's chances than anything the Christie camp has. DuHaime should put Rick on payroll.

When Cardinale stand up and claims to be a Conservative based on his voting record which is somewhat admirable when stacke against the RIMO herd in the Senate, then turns around and endorses any establishment RINO that is Pro-Abortion, Anti-Gun Rights, Double-dipping, big spending, government growing, RINO, he betrays the Conservative agenda.  He supported Whitman's budgets, Whitman's Godless Judges on the Supreme Court, Whitman's appointees, Witman's raiding of the pension, then Whitman's bail-out of the Pension she raided, and on and on.  Yet he still claims to be a Conservative.  

Cardinale seems to exist in a parallell universe.

"Democrats could sell refrigerators to Eskimos before Republicans could sell them blankets." - Thomas Sowell - Random Thoughts for February 10, 2009

You must not have one to distort a record the way you do. I guess you need an automatic weapon to kill a deer...does that make you a real man? Enforcing CURRENT gun laws is what Christie has stated over and over again..no new ones. The rest of your policy summaries are so absurd that they warrant no response. Jeez you guys are scary people.

So one can be critical of how Mr Shatan may have acted towards senator Cardinale.  I was not there so I do not know what happened.  But the more important question that the left and Christie/Corzine supporters as usual ignore is....IS HE RIGHT?

Amazing, Chris Christie who has been pro abortion for decades is suddenly pro-life.  Even more amazing, Chris Christie who is on record being against the 2nd amendment is suddenly for only enforcing existing gun laws, which of course in NJ violate the rights of law abiding citizens each and every day.  And Cardinale claiming to be a conservative while also being part of the Whitman farce I guess was just too much to take.

I guess maybe some frustration is setting in with the Lonegan campaign, since Christie refuses to debate, talk to, or even acknowledge conservatives or Steve Lonegan.  He has ditched the campaign numerous times since the beginning of the month.  And there was nothing on his web site schedule for this past Saturday morning, so he had no reason not to be there.

"Cardinale seems to exist in a parallell universe."

He may be in a parallel universe, but Loonegan, Shaftan & Co. are beyond the outer limits.

"25-30% of the Republican Party will be staying home."

I think more like 25-30 wingnuts will stay home and cry in their kool-aid. The rest will vote for Consistent Conservative Chris Christie (4C) because they have nothing to lose.

"The rest of your policy summaries are so absurd that they warrant no response. Jeez you guys are scary people."

They're not scary. They're just wingnuts; quite harmless really. They are the political equivalent of the midget wrestlers that used to be on TV, always good for a few laughs and a sideshow before the main event.

“If you’re unwilling to compete for these votes, and if you’re unable to win these votes, then you’ve got to wonder if you belong on the ballot at all." -- Chris Christie on Steve Lonegan's decision not to attend the Bergen County Republican c

Why would Cardinale ever, ever stoop so low as to respond to Rick Shaftan. I mean, if cardinale is failtarded, then shaftan is a failnozzle -everything he points at fails. AT least cardinale has won a few elections.

"I guess maybe some frustration is setting in with the Lonegan campaign, since Christie refuses to debate, talk to, or even acknowledge conservatives or Steve Lonegan."

Why should he? Consistent Conservative Chris Christie (4C) has already won the primary and the overwhelming support of GOP leaders and organizations throughout the state and in all demographic groups. The primary is over and Republicans will vote 4C to the same extent they voted for Whitman in 1993. What 4C needs to do now is reach out to moderate democrats and independents in order to win the general election. He has to look to the future, not the past.

“If you’re unwilling to compete for these votes, and if you’re unable to win these votes, then you’ve got to wonder if you belong on the ballot at all." -- Chris Christie on Steve Lonegan's decision not to attend the Bergen County Republican c

Shaftan is a reprehensible human being and by Lonegan backing him he has dropped into the gutter as well."

This is why liberal republicans lose. It's the same idiotic school of thought that says attack ads don't work.

What would have been more becoming? To let Cardinale give his boring speech and let him spout his script unchallenged? Oh no! how dare someone give a liberal Republican a hard time! How dare someone call Chris Christie a RINO!

I mean, so what? It probably made the whole event worth going to. It called attention to Lonegans campaign, and it provoked a liberal republican to respond to Lonegan's campaign. It's just too bad that liberal republican was Cardinale and not Chris "The Silent Munk" Christie.

If the Christie camp can't confront Lonegan, he's going to get his throat stepped on by Corzine.

if Christie grew some and started going at it. The way I see it is a bunch of whinning from elite liberal minded wanna be's. If Christie and his cohorts can't handle Shaftan, how can they expect anyone to respect them when Corzine tries to give it to them.

The one image that sticks in my head is that of Hillary crying and complaining about the men ganging up on her. Poor Chri- I mean Hillary.

We know you're reading and would benefit from your side added.

It's unfortunate that the bigger story of the Conservative Leadership Breakfast is being overlooked, and that is Steve Lonegan winning the straw poll with 87% to Christie's 3%.

This is a reflection of CONSERVATIVES from across the State, not a bunch of lackey's on a Executive Committee or Screening Committee doing the bidding of the County Chairman.

"It's unfortunate that the bigger story of the Conservative Leadership Breakfast is being overlooked, and that is Steve Lonegan winning the straw poll with 87% to Christie's 3%."

That's about as meaningful as those straws polls Murray Sabrin won last year.

If wingnut straw polls meant anything Alan Keyes would be President.

“If you’re unwilling to compete for these votes, and if you’re unable to win these votes, then you’ve got to wonder if you belong on the ballot at all." -- Chris Christie on Steve Lonegan's decision not to attend the Bergen County Republican c

Christie's delusional attempt to paint himself as a conservative is just laughable.

Where or what are his conservative credentials?

He is closer to Jon Corzine than Steve Lonegan, doesn't that prove Christie is truly left of center?

Maybe this is why Christie couldn't even get re-nominated for freeholder in the all GOP Morris County!

How does an incumbent lose his party's own nomination?

Lonegan won three times in a swing community in a swing county that is now solidly blue. What more proof do you need that Lonegan is battle tested while Christie spends his time ignoring and attacking conservatives...

Just because some moderate who adores Clifford Case, a liberal Republican claims you're a conservative Chris, you really need to tell us conservatives what that means?

Can any Christie supporter please list the conservative agenda of the former US Attorney?

The floor is yours...

Vote Column "A" - All the way!

The Christie libs are trying to point things away from the truth by attacking Shaftan.

Notice Lonegan didn't apologize. That's something the Christie camp should learn from, there is nothing to be gain politically by apologizing. You don't throw people on your team under the bus like John McCain did.

John McCain was perhaps Obama's biggest supporter, when shouting down his own support.

All Shafton did was challenge someone in public who probably has never been challenged like that before. Yeah he interrupted him and caught him off guard. That's the only way you CAN catch politicians, who always try to control the types of public questions they get, and the environment that surrounds them.

All of this is very good schooling for the preordained Christie camp.

Someone has to get Christie to break his vow of silence.

I think you have a problem. Christie is nothing more than a left of center guy.

On top of it, Christie jumps the issues, hides from his attackers and is afraid of going at it with Lonegan. That says more than enough. He won't take Lonegan on because he knows that Lonegan will paste him.

Please just admit that the fallacy that a liberal republican is the only thing that he and the elitest think will win. All I need do is look at the head of the Republican Party of NJ.

I saw him and the Democrat NJ Party Chair on Inside Trenton. I couldn't tell which one was the Republican and which was the Democrat. The NJ party chair was so wishy washy I knew that we have no hope of winning as long as the voters see no difference. Christie is no different than Corzine, except for a bunch more pounds and years.

He asked me to personally thank you masochistic crackheads for fucking up a golden opportunity to take back the Governor's Office.

Snake Pliskin?  I heard you were dead.

He told me to tell you that he has it on good authority that Chris Christie is indeed a feckless RINO and that Lonegan supporters should stay home election day to teach Christie a lesson.

Snake Pliskin?  I heard you were dead.

"He won't take Lonegan on because he knows that Lonegan will paste him."

Nonsense. The only pasting Loonegan will do on June 2 is pasting his hairpiece back on after Consistent Conservative Chris Christie (4C) knocks it off.

"Christie is no different than Corzine, except for a bunch more pounds and years."

There's always a few wingnuts who would rather sit home and cry in their kool-aid but it will not affect the outcome one way or the other.

"Lonegan won three times in a swing community in a swing county that is now solidly blue."

And when he ran for State Senate, Congress and Governor in that same "swing county" it swung right back in his face.

"Just because some moderate who adores Clifford Case, a liberal Republican claims you're a conservative Chris, you really need to tell us conservatives what that means?"

What for? 4C is running for Governor of New Jersey not Grand Dragon of the Ku Klux Klan. He needs to explain himself to moderate independents and democrats, not an insignificant bunch of whiny losers.

“If you’re unwilling to compete for these votes, and if you’re unable to win these votes, then you’ve got to wonder if you belong on the ballot at all." -- Chris Christie on Steve Lonegan's decision not to attend the Bergen County Republican c

60 friends of CWA, which has a Lonegan advertisement at the top of their website, get together and 53 vote for Lonegan. And they call it some great victory.

Why is Lonegan running? I mean is there a reason besides his own vanity. Never served in a state cabinet or subcabinet position. Never served in the state senate or assembly. Or congress. Never even been a freeholder. Never served in a federal government position.

I don't think he ever won an election with more than 1,200 votes. He obviously seems to have trouble getting along with others. I have news for you crazed wing-nuts: Chris Smith, Cardinale, Kean and Giuliani are not the enemy.

Shaftan and Lonegan are basically kindergarten babies way out of their league. I can't wait until they are assigned to history's dustbin.

They have no significant following. If they did, Christie woould not have roughly four times as many $2,000 plus donors as Lonegan. If they did they would not have to pick up illegal immigrants to put together campaign signs instead of getting volunteers to do it.

"Amazing, Chris Christie who has been pro abortion for decades is suddenly pro-life."

Not for nothing, but that didn't seem to stop social conservatives in New Jersey from backing a plastic banana like Mitt Romney for President over John McCain last year.

"He that lives upon hope will die fasting."- Benjamin Franklin

Are you defending Whitperson's Judicial Picks?

The same one's that said Homosexual's have a right be Boy Scout Troop leaders and take our children on overnight camping trips.

The same one's that declared that banning murdering a baby with a scissors through the back of the neck, sticking a vacuum tube to suck the brain out and collapse the head for easy extraction, up to the moment of birth was unconstitutional. The Assembly and the Senate over rid Whitman's veto of a ban on that brutal act of murder, then her stellar co conspirators in black robes said the ban was unconstitutional.

Along with their balck robes they should have matiching pointed hoods.

You must be in the same state of denial as the rest of your liberal bent.

"Democrats could sell refrigerators to Eskimos before Republicans could sell them blankets." - Thomas Sowell - Random Thoughts for February 10, 2009

"I don't think he ever won an election with more than 1,200 votes."

Bogota is not big, genius. I don't know the total number of votes cast in that election but 1,200 coming out of Bogata which isn't much bigger than Ridgefield Park, is probably a decent amount to win by. That's 1,200 votes his opposition didn't get, and in the end that's all that matters. The village of Ridgefield Park, is a mile square.

Thanks for stating the obvious..."Bogota is not big". You are correct...so why does it's former mayor act like he was the mayor of NYC on the campaign trail. What a joke Lonegans campaign has turned into. Worse yet, the direction that Shaftan has taken it in, he won't be able to hold his head up and know that he ran a truthful campaign. Sad

NJ's gun laws are unconstitutional and maintaining existing gun laws are nothing to brag about. You cannot ever carry a gun in NJ unless you are part of the law enforcement.

NJ Gun Laws are more onerous than in NY (NYC exception). The laws have to be changed to uphold the constitution of the United States, which says that the people have the right to bear arms (for you liberal dolts that means carry) and the Government is prohibited, barred, forbidden, by law not to infringe on that right. So Whitman is a pro gun person because she wants to keep the most restrictive state gun laws in the country?

"Democrats could sell refrigerators to Eskimos before Republicans could sell them blankets." - Thomas Sowell - Random Thoughts for February 10, 2009

Bogota is .67 square miles in area. You would have to walk around it twice for a morning walk to get any exercise benefit. That is not a put down just making the point that 1200 votes are big.

"Democrats could sell refrigerators to Eskimos before Republicans could sell them blankets." - Thomas Sowell - Random Thoughts for February 10, 2009

Yes, and I did not support Mr. Romney, and I gave people who did support him the same grief.  I used to call Romney a Wannabee.  A liberal who desparately wanted to be a conservative.  But had never been in a position to vote that way, and when he was in positions of power he was a liberal.

60 friends of CWA, which has a Lonegan advertisement at the top of their website, get together and 53 vote for Lonegan. And they call it some great victory.

As opposed to Party Boss Chairmen like O'Toole, Florio, Oxley, DeMichele, and Davis stacking their Executive Committee with fellow Christie voters, conducting a vote, and then giving the line to Christie based on that vote.

Makes sense to me.

Maybe not all Lonegan supporters are dunces, but the ones who post here seem to be.

 Geez, vote for me, I was elected grade school president of my 6th grade class. I got 20 votes. But it was a small class, so I deserve to be governor. The point that seems to be lost here is that Lonegan has bumkis qualifications. At least Levine was mayor of a mid-size town. Very many town councilmen /women have larger wards than Bogota.

 OK. A fringe group of 60 CWA brekafast diners is a better statistical cross sample than county GOP organizations. All 21 county GOP orgs are corrupt and stacked in some sort of conspiracy against the Bogota ex-mayor, right?

Nobody thinks there is a conspiracy against Mayor Lonegan.  What we are saying is there has been a systematic changes that are put in place to keep conservatives out of the race.  The rules change year to year, I will give some history.

In 2006 the powers that be announced that we cannot and will not have another repeat of 2005, and therefore we will not have a primary for the US Senate.  We will unite behind one candidate, and that person will be liberal Tom Kean Jr.  Most of us listened, including myself, and we all worked through the winter, spring, summer and fall for one person, a united front so to speak.  And again another double digit, million vote, race was called at 8:11 PM.

In 2008, there was a primary, and the handpicked person was Ann Easterbrook.  Unfortunately for Ann, her health made it impossible for her to continue.  So instead of allowing Joe Pinnachio and yes even Murray Sabrin to continue to battle it out, and after Pinanachio had won multiple county conventions (not screen committees).  Little Tommy Wilson came out an publically berated both men and said “the NJGOP does not have a real candidate for the US Senate at present, but we are still searching for one.”  A sitting State Senator and former Assemblyman was not a REAL candidate.  He insulted the conservative and libertarian wing of the party, again.  And went through the motions to undermine his own convention process and went through three more people four more times before finally settling on now three time political loser Dick Zimmer.  Yet another double digit, well over a million vote, race called at 8:02 PM loss.

This year, the NJGOP is not taking any chances this time, and has changed the rules once again.  There will be virtually NO conventions.  Since last year they had to undermine their own process this year they will have “screening committees” in which the county chair who in some cases is being politically intimidated into doing so picks a few other Christie people.  They go into a room, the candidates speak, and then they award the line.  Of all of the so called support Christie has received, only TWICE have there been an actual vote of committees.

Nobody thinks this is some grand conspiracy against Mayor Lonegan.  What we do see is that if the candidate is not the hand picked person.  He or she will be marginalized, made fun of, and pushed aside to make room for who they think can win.  All conservatives would like is a fair primary fight.  If Mayor Lonegan is not he nominee then we will stay home, because we have been told now to get lost.  So why would we come back afterwards.

I hope this helps.

Flash back to the 2005 NJ Gubernatorial Primary .. with a whopping 7 candidates. Ultra conservative Lonegan placed 4th in that field, with only 8% of the vote. Even more dismal is that Lonegan placed further down the list at 5th, in his home county of Bergen; the Republican voters who should have known him the best.

He's trying to focus on the economy now & keep his ultra conservative social beliefs out of the campaign, but the Democrats will certainly raise issues with which moderate Independents & Republicans will feel very uncomfortable. He's also started a negative campaign against his opponent, without concern that it might hurt Republican chances in the general election! This is the NJ Republicans' election to win in November, so we have to look at track records to see who has the clear chance of winning .. and it's just not Lonegan. If I had any belief that he was a "team player", his economic background might make him a candidate for #2 or a cabinet position, but I don't think "compromise" is in his vocabulary, and that just doesn't work in politics.

Lets see if the fundraising momentum continues for the Christie campaign. The filings since Christie entered the race have been overwhelming for him over Lonegan. I'm sure the endorsement of the CWA will help Steve put a big number up in todays filing. Lonegan/Shaftan...you can't make smoke where there is no fire.

Formaja pretty much has it right. On the other hand, all Clifford seems to be able to do is attack anyone who doesn't come running up to kiss 8C's fat ass.

Virtually every county and municipal contest has been rigged in some way to insure that 8C gets the nod and everyone else is shut out. The stories of intimidation and threats are too numerous and undeserving of any candidate who expects rank and file party members to get behind them.

When such a large number of workers and volunteers feel so disenfranchised, they will walk and given the heavy handedness of the 8C methods they are virtually insuring this.

So, let 8C continue to duck every legitimate opportunity to discuss an issue, debate an opponent or have an exchange with members of the press because of his evasive posturing.

Clifford can continue to attack in his anonmyous mode from his perch in the state committee or state republic offices. But the bottom line is, 8C will not become the next governor because he has not been properly vetted, has no ideas that have been challenged by anyone or discussed, has had no debate with any candidate and has too many changes from past positions.

So, between, the core taking a walk, the stuff Corzine will hit him with and the D's all coming together as they usually do, it will be 4 more years of Corzine.

You heard it here first. Tom Kean Jr. will be the next annointed candidate in 4 years.

That is why Kean Sr. endorsed 8C now. He figures 8C will lose and Kean Jr. will run for an open seat in 4 years.

It is all about down the road, not about helping NJ now.

I wonder if Cliffy will support Kean Jr. in 4 years. Now there is a match made in heaven.

"Geez, vote for me, I was elected grade school president of my 6th grade class. I got 20 votes. But it was a small class, so I deserve to be governor."

How is that any better than "vote for me I'm a lawyer". Lonegan actually had a retort to this, saying in an interview (paraphrasing) "How does filling out a legal brief qualify you to be governor.

At least Lonegan ran his own furniture business, and has the perspective of a small business owner.

you people think you got something special in christie? WRONG you got something special in Corzine. If you took him out of this equation and plug in any no-name democrat Christie LOSES. Your candidates ideas aren't superior, and his personality is benign at best. Christie voters should Thank god for Corizine, who ticks everyone off at least once a week with another terrible idea

And you are incapable of having a discussion without grade school insults. You should post your own photo so we can get a look at how perfect you are--you must be with all the personal insults you toss around.  Why don't you and Lonegan go hire some more illegals to do work and then rail against them. Hypocracy at its best.

i edited my post. My anger is not a Christie but those supporting him who started this name calling long ago at anyone who preferred Lonegan as a wingnut.

"How does filling out a legal brief qualify you to be governor."

Writing a quality legal brief is a lot harder than you think. Christie has at the very least overseen the prosecution of hundreds of criminals.

All we know about Lonegan is that he hires illegal immigrants.

You have consistantly made personal attacks against Christie, a man who has served this state and his country over the last seven years. You post "talking points" from the Lonegan e-mails, without any research as to their validity. If you were to observe the history of a "Shaftan Candidate" the pattern is consistant. Say anything, do anything to personally rip apart your opponent. So the sensitivity comes from watching what this operative has done historically. In terms of Lonegan, I have posted many times that he has some good ideas---in my opinion some unrealistic ones as well. His inconsistant temperment--rants, etc...disqualify him to be taken seriously in my eyes. Notice no personal insults or distortions.

"If Mayor Lonegan is not he nominee then we will stay home, because we have been told now to get lost."

Why not go third party or independent? It's not too late to organize and file for candidacy in the general election. I'm sure Shaftan & Co. will find someone to carry the wingnut battle flag this November.

Besides, maybe if two establishment liberals split the mainstream vote a wingnut could sneak in like Jesse Ventura in 1998. If Murray Sabrin's not available, how about Alan Keyes? His suitcase is always packed and ready for travel. He moved to Illinois in 2004 to run against Obama so maybe now he'll move to New Jersey.

"NJ's gun laws are unconstitutional and maintaining existing gun laws are nothing to brag about. You cannot ever carry a gun in NJ unless you are part of the law enforcement."

It always comes down to guns, gays and abortion. I didn't know that to become a certified wingnut one has to possess a juris doctoris degree in constitutional law. Why bother even having a court system since the wingnuts already have all the answers.

For my part I'd rather have the Village People on the NJ Supreme Court than anyone appointed by Loonegan.

“If you’re unwilling to compete for these votes, and if you’re unable to win these votes, then you’ve got to wonder if you belong on the ballot at all." -- Chris Christie on Steve Lonegan's decision not to attend the Bergen County Republican c

Whoever wins the election in November will have the opportunity to make numerous appointments to the NJ Supreme Court. Since Lonegan has no legal training or experience, how is he qualified to make such appointments.

Many will claim that principal benefit of having small business experience is that one will understand budgeting better. Well one can likewise argue that as the U.S. Attorney, Chris Christie had to implement a budget each year, thereby making his experience there comparable to that gained by a businessman.

Furthermore, while many here tend to minimize the legal profession, any lawyer in private practice will tell you that the operation of a law firm is like any other business. Lawyers sell a product (their services), pay taxes, manage staffs, and hopefully produce a profit. Chris Christie was a partner in a law firm before he became U.S. Attorney, so it can easily be argued that he is far more qualified to be Governor than Lonegan. Christie has owned and operated a business (a law firm), has executive experience (U.S. Attorney), and he has had formal legal training.

I said before apologizing gains nothing, and I should have known it doesn't gain anything with the libs here either.

"you post "talking points" from the Lonegan e-mails, without any research as to their validity. "

I post no talking points from anyone. Now you're the jerk making presumptions about me.
You know I'm right... Without Corzine, Christie would lose, against, say a Dick Codey. Christie is was good lawyer, Lonegan was a good mayor.

Corzine wasn't a good anything, that's why he fell victim to a coup de ta.

I'd like to see Christie show a little more of the vigor Lonegan has, and brush up on his knowledge of specifics, or Corzine is going to talk rings around him.

You truly are a class act....

"When such a large number of workers and volunteers feel so disenfranchised, they will walk and given the heavy handedness of the 8C methods they are virtually insuring this."

A few dozen disgruntled malcontents who post on websites, call-up rightwing talk radio, show-up at CWA breakfasts, and sit home drinking their kool-aid rather than vote for Consistent Conservative Chris Christie (4C) will not affect the outcome of the election.

"At least Lonegan ran his own furniture business, and has the perspective of a small business owner."

My friend ran his own used car dealership and has the perspective of a small business owner. Maybe next time he should run for Governor.

"I wonder if Cliffy will support Kean Jr. in 4 years. Now there is a match made in heaven."

I'd vote for Kean in the primary, especially if he's up against clowns like "Maverick Murray" and "Jersey Joe". However, I also like Menendez so we'll wait and see what happens.

“If you’re unwilling to compete for these votes, and if you’re unable to win these votes, then you’ve got to wonder if you belong on the ballot at all." -- Chris Christie on Steve Lonegan's decision not to attend the Bergen County Republican c

You truly are a class act....

Welcome to New Jersey

You needn't worry about me, I have said repeatedly i will vote Christie when he gets the nomination. I think anyone who doesn't is cutting there nose off to spite their face.

I may yet vote for Christie in the primary but one of my biggest problems in doing so is that too many of supporters like CliffordCase routinely call his opponents wingnuts and the like. This is typical of the Whitman crowd who seem to be backing Christie.

In my own mind, I am trying to figure out whether he is Chistie II or he is someone who is somewhere between Bret Shundler and Tom Kean on the political spectrum. I can live with the latter, not with the former.

"I may yet vote for Christie in the primary but one of my biggest problems in doing so is that too many of supporters like CliffordCase routinely call his opponents wingnuts and the like. This is typical of the Whitman crowd who seem to be backing Christie."

I'd be more concerned about what Loonegan's public stand-ins like Rick "Mountaintop" Shaftan say about Christie and his supporters like Gerry Cardinale, than what some poster who writes under the assumed name of a deceased US Senator says on an obscure website that nobody except a few insiders and junkies bother to read.

“If you’re unwilling to compete for these votes, and if you’re unable to win these votes, then you’ve got to wonder if you belong on the ballot at all." -- Chris Christie on Steve Lonegan's decision not to attend the Bergen County Republican c