If Assemblywoman Linda Stender’s congressional campaign poll numbers are to be believed, then State Sen. Leonard Lance should be worried about Michael Hsing.
Hsing, a councilman from Bridgewater, pulled out of the Republican congressional primary to run as an independent after complaining that Somerset County’s GOP endorsement process was “rigged.”
Now the Stender poll shows her in a close race with Lance, leading him by just three points – 36-33%. That poll has the independent Hsing at 9% -- most of which would presumably belong to Lance otherwise.
Somerset County Republican Chairman Dale Florio, however, doesn’t believe that the poll is accurate.
“I don’t put any credibility into that number. That’s just not a real number,” he said.
Poll numbers notwithstanding, Florio said that if Hsing has any effect on this race, it won’t be to Lance’s detriment.
“I think that if he takes any votes, it will be votes taken away from the Democrat. (Hsing) has given up. He’s traded in whatever role he had for some unknown role. He may be a self-proclaimed conservative, but I don’t know if that’s the way the voters will look at it.”
If Hsing doesn’t make it to Congress, he’s up for reelection to his council seat next year. Florio, however, wouldn’t discuss whether he would make nice with Hsing and convert him back to the Republican Party, or whether he would field a challenger to him.
“I’m still waiting for Michael to return my phone call,” he said.
Hsing could not immediately be reached for comment.
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Agree w/Florio, but
Hsing is right in that the Someret convention was rigged. Florio was behind Hunterdon's Lance the whole time but didn't have the guts to be public about it. Major conflict being a State Street lobbyist and a County GOP chair, but hey, this is NJ. This is expected and encouraged. Hsing has no future in the GOP and will not be a factor in the CD7 race this year.
anybody else think..
Hsing is being paid off by Stender/allies to try and steal votes form Lance?
It's a somewhat known practice in really competitive districts, organizations pay off a candidate to run third party and steal votes.
I'd say this is all silly, but it is rather ironic that Hsing dropped out of the contest and went independent because of a silly thing like a county convention for the line. The line really isn't that important, good candidates can get over not being on the line. Hsing was a second tier candidate anyway..
Hsing isn't being paid off ...
He's doing this on his own, and committed to doing it long ago.
The line isn't really important? What planet have you been campaigning on?
Dem Insider Defends Hsing..
The fact that a Dem Insider/Hack is defending Hsing should raise some eyebrows.
Schundler didn't need too many county lines in 01' to win the primary. Doug Forrester didn't need too many county lines in 02' to win the US Senate primary.
Folks in Somerset jumped over the county line to vote for Zimmer over Pennacchio just this year.
County lines mean something, that's true, but they can be overcome with a good enough candidate.
plus..
Let's look at this: There were plenty of other candidates on the second tier in the 7th, did any of them throw that much of a fit about county lines? No, because they knew they wouldn't win them anyway.
It's very bad reasoning for going independent and deciding to funnel away votes in a general election and risking your own council seat...unless there was some OTHER incentive for him to do so.
Yeah that makes sense...
It really makes sense for Hsing to risk his career and jail time to get Linda Stender elected. He probably wants Lance to lose so he can run later. Either way, he's probably going no higher than he is now, like Andrews is going no higher than Congress in NJ-1.
Anyway, NJ-7 has a problem that I, as a voter of NJ-3, envy. The voters there can't lose. They get Stender, who is a leap up from Ferguson, or Lance, who is a great guy and knows his stuff.
Not so in NJ-3, where it's Adler, a bright solutions-oriented thinker, or Myers, an idiot who doesn't understand we messed up in Iraq and thinks the economy is in good shape. I wish I had two good candidates down here.
Chairman Florio doth protest too much...
“I think that if he takes any votes, it will be votes taken away from the Democrat. (Hsing) has given up. He’s traded in whatever role he had for some unknown role. He may be a self-proclaimed conservative, but I don’t know if that’s the way the voters will look at it.”
A conservative that will take votes from Stender?? I think not.
This is the card that Mr. Florio must play: he cannot let his party think that Hsing has any power or influence. He is truly concerned you can tell by the comment made---(Hsing) has given up. He’s traded in whatever role he had for some unknown role.
Florio would only make such an observation ---he means that Hsing has given up on the Republican Party, not in his role in the race---if he were concerned.
Hsing's voters
are mostly Asian-Americans from Middlesex County. This drains Stender.
Follow Up Poll
A follow up poll is needed to determine Hsing's effect. Anyone choosing Hsing should be asked who would they vote for if he wasn't in the election.
9% is too big a number to ignore by either candidate. I'm sure they're doing their own internal polling.
If Lance loses because of Hsing, it will be the County Chair's fault. The past couple of years it seems a number GOP candidates have openly complained of unfair practices in the selection process. It finally got ugly this year with the Whitman primary challenge draining Lance's $$ and now with the Hsing independent run.
There were plenty of candidates in that primary...
that drained Lance's money. Hatfield took the Union line, Whitman the Middlesex and Marks ran with the ultra conservative "line". Lance had one serious challenge from Whitman and to a lesser extent challenges from the other two... not to mention the other minor candidates. The people who really messed it up for him were his consultants.... why did he spend ALL his money when he had the Hunterdon and Somerset lines? He would have won spending half the money.
The problem here is that Hsing is just a sore loser and egomaniac. Once Lance won Whitman became his Co-Finance Chair and I've seen Marks campaigning with him. Hatfield is working with the Lance campaign as well as far as I know. Hsing cries foul about the process and runs as an independent. If he gets more more than 5% I'll be suprised.
Yes & No
What drained Lance's money were the TV spots and mailers he had to run against Whitman countering her attacks of him.
Yes, Hsing may be sore, but he'll be back for his reelection. There was an attempt to make changes in Bridgewater that failed.
You Look Like A Politician, And You Speak Like One Too
The campaign funds of both Leonard Lance and Linda Stender should be irrelevant at this point.
Voters in the 7th district as well as in the nation as a whole must take a step back and take a stand for what they believe in. Anybody who watched the New Jersey Channel 12 debate this past week should have been able to readily see that both Leonard Lance and Linda Stender are more typical politicians that don't have an ounce of change anywhere in them. When asked to address the simple question of whether they would raise taxes, neither candidate came even remotely close to answering the question. Both tiptoed around the topic and instead talked about energy independence and spending abroad, important topics of discussion, but utterly irrelevant to the question nonetheless. Yet typically most voters would vote for either one of these candidates, which is absurd seeing as voters claim that their issue of most concern is the economy. Even when neither candidate cannot answer a simple question that is essential to their validity as a candidate and essential to the future of the country's economy, voters typically still vote for them.
We can only hope that this year's NJ-7 congressional race will turn out differently. The only candidate that has been open to answering any and all questions about the issues and his plans for the future is the Independent candidate Bridgewater Councilman Michael Hsing. He openly discusses his plans for the economy, environment, war, healthcare, abortion and more. Furthermore, Hsing's camp has raised a substantial war chest that is currently above 150,000 dollars, and Hsing has garnered tremendous support among crowds of undecided and independent voters while also drawing great support from thousands of registered Republican and Democrat voters.
Polling showed that Michael Hsing was at 9% more than a month ago, even before he had begun any serious monetary campaigning. Estimates on Hsing's polls now run anywhere from 14%-18%. The recent Monmouth University poll is severely inaccurate with regards to Hsing's actual support level, as anybody that has actually read the poll would know. Hsing's name is only included in the poll twice in 12 questions, 6 of which deal directly with the NJ-7 race. Furthermore, neither the Monmouth poll, nor the Stender poll take into account the fact that Hsing will grab 4-5% of total votes just because of tremendous asian-american support in the district.
Additionally, it is quite becoming that any of the users who have criticized Hsing on this site, such as backwardsjersey, and sloburn, have come up with nothing better than, "Hsing is being paid off by Stender/allies to try and steal votes form Lance" and calling him "a sore loser". The reason Congress is such a mess right now is that many voters either know nothing about the issues or have become miniature politicians and talk only about political maneuverings instead of ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT THE ISSUES.
Make an intelligent choice in November and decide whether or not you want to hand another congressional seat over to another run of the mill politician. Think about it.