BLOOMINGTON, Minn. -- By law, retiring U.S. Rep. Jim Saxton can’t tell the National Republican Congressional Committee what to do with the $400,000 he just donated to them.
But Republican State Chairman Tom Wilson has a good idea of where the money should go: to the cash strapped Chris Myers, who’s running as Saxton’s choice to fill his 3rd Congressional District seat. Myers is running against Democratic State Sen. John Adler, who as of the last filing period had about 10 times Myers’s cash-on-hand.
So far, the NRCC hasn’t made any public commitments to the district. When asked if he would be disappointed if the NRCC didn’t commit any resources to the 3rd District, Wilson was candid.
“If they don’t, I’ll be more than disappointed. I’ll be sickened, and I’ll be pissed,” he said. “I can tell them to. They don’t have to listen to me. Once the money is in their treasury it’s theirs to do what they will with, but hopefully his colleagues will be respectful of his commitment to the caucus and make sure that his seat stays in Republican hands.”
State Sen. Leonard Lance is also running at a huge cash-on-hand disadvantage to Democrat Linda Stender in the race to replace departing U.S. Rep. Mike Ferguson. Not to mention former U.S. Rep. Dick Zimmer, whose cash-on-hand is dwarfed by incumbent Democrat Frank Lautenberg’s. All around, Republicans are running at a huge cash disadvantage, but Wilson thinks the money talk is overblown.
“I’m sure it’s going to improve. John Adler has been raising money for this race since 1994. Linda Stender has been raising money since 4 years ago,” he said. “They’ve had a head start. Congressman Zimmer only go t into the race in April. There will be some leveling of the field.”
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Sickened but not Surprised...
Tom Wilson may be sickened when the NRCC doesn't give any money to Chris Myers, but he certainly won't be surprised. This race has been over since June 30, when the FEC reports showed John Adler's $1.4 million cash-on-hand to Myers's mere $155,000.
The Sierra Club, NJ PBA, NJ FOP, Professional Firefighters Association of NJ, Teamsters, and RFA have all endorsed Adler in this district. Last time, they all supported Jim Saxton. That doesn't even include the AFL-CIO, the UAW, the American Nurses Association, or so many business groups. The NRCC is bright enough to know where to fight and where to best spend its resources. They're giving NJ-3 to the Dems.
I would be too
I would be sickened, too, if I had on my resume that I was the state Chairman the year Republicans lost two historically red districts.
Since 1994?
What is Tom Wilson smoking? John Adler has been raising money since 1994? Sure, he was thinking about running for Senate in like 2003, but 1994, cmon Tommy, you are the State Chairman and you don't even know your facts.
The NRCC already has two ad buys nationally almost 18 million dollars, and NJ-3 is no where to be found. National R's have given up on Chris "the economy is basically strong" Myers, because they along with the Ocean County Republicans know he can't win!
Since 1994?
What is Tom Wilson smoking? John Adler has been raising money since 1994? Sure, he was thinking about running for Senate in like 2003, but 1994, cmon Tommy, you are the State Chairman and you don't even know your facts.
The NRCC already has two ad buys nationally almost 18 million dollars, and NJ-3 is no where to be found. National R's have given up on Chris "the economy is basically strong" Myers, because they along with the Ocean County Republicans know he can't win!
Don't read anything into this.
No one is paying attention to either of these races. They are both ten day campaigns. If either Republican can find a way to distinguish themselves from the Democrat and get that message on network TV for a week they will win.
That's a big if. But if they can't, it's their own fault -- not the Nationals. Both Myers and Lance are running against ultra-liberals with 100 percent pro-Corzine/pro-McGreevey voting records. With Corzine's negatives, there's no excuse for either Republican being behind in these normally safe Republican districts.
Hence is the legacy of the dying liberal wing of the Republican Party.
Hey Mountaintop...
Looks like this guy has really been following this race. I'll fill you in. Myers can't raise any money in a Republican district or persuade any important groups to endorse him in a Republican district.
Chris Myers has already found a way to distinguish himself from John Adler: incompetence.
Network TV!?
With Camden and Burlington in the Philly media market and Ocean in the NY media market, this is one of the most expensive districts in the country. You think Chris Myers can conduct an effective television and radio campaign with his campaign fundraising? Chris Myers could be sitting at home all day and he'd only be doing slightly poorer in fund raising. Maybe he'll be able to afford a couple 30 second spots in between the Oxyclean and George Foreman Grill infomercials around 4 am.
But seriously, the district's makeup has changed drastically in the last decade. Gore won in 2000 in NJ-3 and Kerry lost by a couple points. Jim Saxton continued to win by large margins because he was an influential congressman with very high Voter ID and campaign coffers. None of these things describe Chris Myers.
The fact is if the NRCC believed what you said, Mountaintop, they would have let everyone know they consider this race at least somewhat of a priorty. There are simply no indications that the Nat'l Republicans or Jim Saxton thinks Chris Myers has much of a chance of winning.
It's not hard to see the writing on the wall. No one ever said you had to like it, but I'm sure you can see it.
Ellen Karcher - Part 2
Adler has way more cash... the Sierra Club, NJ PBA, NJ FOP, Professional Firefighters Association of NJ, Teamsters, and RFA have all endorsed Adler in this district. And...
Do the two words "Ellen Karcher" mean anything to anyone? When someone spends years of rubber stamping pork that sends people to jail, taxes out the a-hole, $5 billion of borrowing for operating, and all the other garbage that comes out of this Democrat-controlled Legislature, all special interest endorsements and money in the world don't always matter.
Adler is not such a bad guy... if he loses, it will McGreevey and Codey's fault for pushing garbage through the Legislature and forcing Adler to vote for all of it. He should have exercised a little more of that independence instead of bowing before McGreevey and Codey. If you lose Adler and stay int he State Senate, stand up on your hind feet and kick out the North Jersey Democrat leadership
More lies
I love the fact that the same people post the same lies constantly on these forums. First, we have the NRCC insiders who "know" that the NRCC will not get involved in this race. You know nothing. Second, we have phony claims of endorsements - the Teamsters never endorsed Saxton. In fact many of those same groups have endorsed Saxton opponents. Moreover, keep praising that endorsement from the RFA. That wonderful group has many skeletons in its closet and they will come out. It just so happens that many of its board members have quit in protest of James Donofrio unilateral selection of Adler - the "liberal Camden County hack" as one of the members called him. Furthermore, I love how those on this board claim to be close enough to Jim Saxton and the Ocean County GOP to know what they are thinking and doing. You are clueless. Keep it up though. I am enjoying the tall tales.
Irony
Isn't it ironic that in a response entitled more lies, the oc claims that "the Teamsters never endorsed Saxton". Why is this ironic? Because it's a lie!
http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/pacs.php?cycle=2004&cid=N00000834...
Now, you may disagree with our assessment that the NRCC has given up on this race, it's a fairly reasonable inference given the total lack of support, but we don't write lies as if they were fact and hope everyone's too stupid to realize you're full of it. Good luck with that.
$$ does not = endorsement
There is a huge difference between "endorsing" a candidate and contributing. Unfortunately you do not know the difference. Saxton was not endorsed by the national Teamsters union, much like he was not endorsed by the national AFL-CIO. Was he supported by many of the locals? Yes. But the national endorsement did not accompany the contribution. Now, the definition of a lie according to the American Heritage Dictionary is:1.A false statement deliberately presented as being true; a falsehood. 2. Something meant to deceive or give a wrong impression. The posters on this board who state that the NRCC, Jim Saxton and the Ocean County GOP giving up or not assisting Chris Myers constitutes a lie because they have or are assisting Chris Myers. For those who state that the NRCC has decided not to provide funding to the 3rd District race are not providing information are not in a position to make those claims. They have not been involved in meetings with the NRCC. So why should anyone believe them or you? Good luck with that.
the oh!-c
I could just go ahead and say anything I want in a desperate attempt to stir controversy, too, but this election is simply already over.
Here's an idea: if the RFA has so many skeletons in its closet, show us! And give us the name of that board member whom you "quoted."
You look a little red in the face from all of the huffing and puffing. You should probably take a breather, because no rational person is going to believe all of your baseless screaming.
Unbelievable
I think you need to call Saxton's communications director because he sure as hell claimed he had the Teamster's endorsement in 2006
http://www.politickernj.com/rep-jim-saxton-collects-another-union-endors...
Right now most reasonable people assume the NRCC has not committed significant financial resources to Myers because in two national press releases announcing financial commitments to house races, Myers hasn't been included. You want us to believe the NRCC has the intention to commit significant financial resources to this race, but not take advantage of the help they would do by announcing it. If you think there is a realistic chance of that happening, you'll be waiting for it long past Nov. 4.
Seriously?
Did you seriously look to the national Teamsters organization and the national AFL-CIO to look for endorsements? National endorsements? For a congressional campaign? Look who's clueless now.
It's the local chapters that endorse. Teamsters Joint Council #73 endorsed Saxton last cycle and endorsed Adler this cycle.
The New Jersey State AFL-CIO endorsed Adler for this cycle.
Come on, anyone knows this.
If
If I am mistaken about the Teamsters than I apologize. However, I was given that information by the very same office a little while ago. But the National Teamsters do not endorse candidates? Another lie. You guys are good at it. The Teamsters Union lead by Jimm Hoffa Jr certainly does make endorsements. He has even threatened Members who do not vote his way.
Records on Trade Issues Will Factor Strongly in Endorsements
WASHINGTON, July 22 /PRNewswire/ -- Teamsters General President James P. Hoffa today told Members of Congress that the Teamsters Union is closely watching the upcoming votes on unfair trade agreements with Chile and Singapore. Hoffa made the remarks at a press conference in the Capitol with Members of Congress who also oppose trade deals that harm American working families.
And liberal partisan oc, you are too bush league to get me red in the face.
Now, I can sit there and look at the DCCC numbers and say, well they have contributed to XX candidate so they must have given up. But I don't because I do not know for a fact that they will not. You guys seem to have some insider knowledge that the NRCC is not getting involved. Who told you that information? If you cannot prove it then it is a lie. I go back to the definition of the word. A false statement deliberately presented as being true; a falsehood. 2. Something meant to deceive or give a wrong impression. You have made the word your own.
Liar Liar Pants on Fire! (paraphrased from the oc)
Let's take a look a that definition. The statement of opinion that the NRCC has given up on NJ-3 is not a lie because: 1. it's an opinion, 2. it's not false, 3. it's not meant to deceive.
Anyway, oh!-c, you still just don't get it. The National Union endorses national candidates, like Barack Obama or John McCain. It does not endorse candidates for Congress. It influences its local chapters as to who to pick. Those local chapters then make those endorsements.
Why would the national organization waste time sending 435 endorsements to every one of its members? Efficiency dictates that the local chapters endorse the local candidates.
I admire your attempts to save face, but you just keep getting redder and redder. Why don't you just keep screaming, "liar liar pants on fire!"
I am over
I am over the age of 5. The phrase to which you "paraphrase" me hasn't come out of my mouth in nearly 40 years. But I will leave the juvnile quotes to you. Congrats on reaching the first grade level of comebacks. Your mom will be proud. Now as for your butchering of the definition of lie, as in lying, your attempts to justify your continued lying is getting tiresome. Your comments fit the definition - A false statement deliberately presented as being true; a falsehood. 2. Something meant to deceive or give a wrong impression just to remind you - perfectly. Your insistence that the NRCC will not assist is false despite your pronouncements to the contrary. Your comments are an attempt to deceive or give the wrong impression. Congratulations on becoming the poster boy or girl for the word lie. At least someone (you) believes the lies you are spreading.
Hey, don't forget Tom....
Looks like Tom Wilson believes it too. It's why he's so sick.
And it looks like Chris Myers and his miscellaneous employees are the only ones that don't get it yet.
No money Myers
That's borderline shameful: Saxton dumps another $400k in the NRCC coffers, and they don't even make the gesture of giving a few bucks to Myers.
Perhaps the reason that Wilson, who possibly has the worst losing record of any state party chairman in recent history, wants money for BurlCo is because of his Strategy Group connections?
Currently, it's the rule of attrition. The NRCC is cash-strapped, Myers hasn't done anything to help himself with his awful fundraising numbers, and only so many districts can be defended while going after a handful of Dems (Lampson, Mahoney, Carney). The smart money is on the national Republicans giving up on either Lance or Myers (if not both) -- and soon. Dark days ahead, New Jersey Republicans; very dark, indeed.
He makes a good point...
I can't believe he's first to bring this up but the Independent OC is right. What would make the State Chairman of the GOP speak publically about his potential anger with the national GOP?
Perhaps, it might be that the NRCC has decided not to spend money in NJ-3.
So I'm inferring that the NRCC accepts they will lose this seat. I'm not guaranteeing it, but this is my opinion and this is yet another reason why you all should believe it, too.
Andy Grey...
Wilson probably was already told by the NRCC that NJ-3 is out of play. So he's just fighting the inevitable.
Adler by 3 points!
And it won't boil down to endorsements but money for an effective GOTV operation, which national campaigns won't down ballot much in non competitive states like NJ and tunrout. Those newly half a million registered folks are almost all D's and will be turning out for Obama/McCain and not McCain/Palin. If Obama keeps his 10 points plus lead, and Palin and her wacko views about the earth being flat and abortion only help that cause in a state like NJ, Myers might as well think about what he wants to do next....Myers sounded promising in the beginning but timing was not his charm. Ask Hillary-its just not the year for Myers!
10 PTS
as of tonight it is dead even with a slight edge to McCain /Palin
Adler is out of touch with the every guy, and Myers has been here campainging instead of flitting around like a gadfly ala Adler at the RNC.
Corrections
Real Clear Politics has Obama up in four polls and tied in one. Here: take a look.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_electi...
Politico shows the Gallup Poll, which has Obama leading McCain 49-42.
Take a look again: http://www.politico.com/
I wouldn't exactly calling what Chris Myers has been doing "campaigning." He just releases a different useless press release everyday in the hopes that some controversy will befall John Adler.
So far, the outcry has gone missing. Instead, people keep donating to Adler, groups keep endorsing Adler, the DCCC keeps pumping money into this district, and Myers and Tom Wilson bemoan their lack of success.
I think Andy Grey said it best: Myers, with his $250,000 salary and $100,000 bonus, is out of touch with the every guy.
You can see that here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BECbYqt0nd4 Check the 1:00 mark.