August 29, 2008 - 1:15pm
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Cryan: Alaska?

Democratic State Chairman Joe Cryan said that he doesn’t know much about Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, but he doubts she’ll be able to draw in New Jersey Hillary Clinton supporters to John McCain’s ticket.

“I don’t know her well enough,” he said. “I haven’t seen much on her background, but it seems as if she’s a fundamentalist that’s out of touch with mainstream America.”

Cryan said that Barack Obama’s pick of Sen. Joe Biden demonstrates better judgment.

“I think we compare the qualifications of both candidates, it’s clear that Barack Obama’s judgment is clearly better suited for the nation,” he said. “I don’t even know how many people there are in Alaska.”

MATT FRIEDMAN is a PolitickerNJ.com Reporter and can be reached via email at matt@politicsnj.com.

Comments

"better judgement",


Just the fact that Cryan - one of the leaders of organized crime family - Dumbocraps - that run this state...stated that Barry’s pick of Sen. Joe Biden demonstrates "better judgement", illustrated what an ignorant fool Cryan really is...

JOM

08/29/08 2:24 pm

And Joe Cryan


Notice the only thing he could attack is her faith.

This from a guy who claims to be a Catholic and enthusiastically endorses abortion for anyone and everyone -- up to and including the day of delivery, funded by taxpayers. for any reason at all.

08/29/08 2:50 pm

Hello! No Where Man: Palin is No Match for Biden


Oops! I meant to say, Just One Man and not No Where Man.
And that is about the NUMBER of men: Just one!
Who would choose to be in the trenches on any number of fighting issues with Mrs. Sarah McBush Palin and not Joe Biden.

08/29/08 2:52 pm

and Cryan's opinion is important why?


Cryan is just that Cryan nothing more nothing less, his opinion is moot!

08/29/08 2:53 pm

and Cryan's opinion is important why?


Cryan is just that Cryan nothing more nothing less, his opinion is moot!

08/29/08 2:54 pm

Obviously Crynan needs some Math lessons


McCain won New Jersey in the Primary. For every Clinton supporter that joins McCain they will count as 2 votes. One lost by Obama and one gained by McCain. If McCain only gets 10% of Hillary supporters he will win New Jersey in a landslide. Obama lost New Jersey to Hillary.

 

"Study the Constitution,  Let it be preached fom the pulpit, proclaimed in the legislatures,and enforced in courts of justice." ~ Abraham Lincoln 

08/29/08 3:03 pm

WARNING


Attention all common-sense people. You will see droves of rabid Democrats wandering the streets and blogs thanks to Sarah Palin and the realization that Barry and Joe Blow Biden are headed for a bigger national defeat than Kerry Edwards. Mention the words "Hillary Clinton" and they might bite you or say "Bush Lied, Kids Died!"

08/29/08 3:35 pm

Class Act vs Class Less


This guy is going pass judgement on any one?

Lets see, He had an ex gf locked up and his kid was arrested a few times.

Against the all american family we saw

today?

BTW Alaska GIVES moneyback to it's citizens!!!
Cryan wouldn't understand that concept.

Enough said.

08/29/08 3:47 pm

CRYAN SHAME


" he doesnt know much about Alaska " ? But can tell Americans they cant drill there. Cryan is out of touch with real America and his lack of political Geography shows that he is out of his mind.

08/29/08 3:53 pm

McCain


Won in NJ, but that race was decided before it got here. Palin cant fill the attack dog role that the VP needs to because she has limited expirience. Thus, McCain has to attack and that will make him look bad. Women who like Hillary will not like Palin. Obama stills wins easily in NJ, and McCain's choice is indeed an early hail mary that will not help him where he needs it like ohio and florida

08/29/08 3:58 pm

hillary voters


I'm sure the pro-choice, educated women who supported Hillary in the NJ primary are going to flock to McCain, because his anti-choice, creationist VP has a uterus.

Hey, I'm voting for McCain because he's white and has a penis.

NJ voters aren't that stupid.

Well, the majority anyway.

08/29/08 4:16 pm

hillary voters


duplicate post

08/29/08 4:21 pm

Palin is a big plus


The only people who don't like her are one issue pro-abortion zealots who hate Palin for not aborting her youngest.

08/29/08 5:46 pm

Sarah's the one


My neighbors are from Alaska. They moved here about a year ago. After seeing the crap that goes on here, all they kept saying was how Jersey could use their governor. Had nothing bad to say about her. She was beautiful, smart, honest, ethical, approachable & could hold her own against anyone. That's good enough for me.

08/29/08 7:25 pm

Palin vs Biden


Unlike K K K ( Krazey Kathe Kallaghan) I would trust to be in the trenches with Palin over Biden anyday . She is a Real American who can handle a gun and she is a lot better looking than the  snob stiff shirt Biden.

Unlike Biden she wont allow America to run out of Gas. 

08/29/08 7:51 pm

i don't understand the pro-choice / pro-life thing


this issue was already decided... it's a done issue... do people really think anyone can overturn a supreme court ruling and make vast changes, etc...?

and this

"NJ voters aren't that stupid.

Well, the majority anyway."

umm... i'd very much beg to differ... the majority of NJ voters couldn't even tell you who their mayor is... let alone any of their districts elected officials or even state senators...

yes, they are that stupid...

The only difference between death and taxes is that death doesn't get worse every time Congress meets. - Will Rogers

08/29/08 7:57 pm

delaware?


Alaska has just a few thousand less people than the state of Delaware. or as we call it dela wear?

08/29/08 8:53 pm

Dela-where?


That joke only works if you spell it: Dela-where?

Palin is going to give McCain some real issues with her lack of experience and foreign policy credentials. She's also going to have a terrible time in the debates against Biden.

The debates on a whole will be rather one-sided this year, it seems.

08/29/08 8:58 pm

Palin is suited to Alaska, not the White House


Governor Palin is a one-time small town Mayor who governs a small state with less population than some of the counties in New Jersey. Her far right-wing, anti-choice conservative ideology will not attract the independent moderate voters that McCain needs.

At least Senator Obama worked hard in the urban centers of Illinois after having been in charge of the Harvard Law Review. He understands the problems and challenges to the poor and middle class. He's seen it close up and personal. In addition, we all know that he went on to serve as a state legislator, finally ending up in the United States Senate. The guy is well versed in national policy and has an articulate national and international agenda.

Sarah Palin was interviewed on CNBC by Larry Kudlow some months ago and confessed she did not even know what a Vice President does.

She has admitted to having no formal position on Iraq. Don't even try to compare her local Alaskan record to the distinguished national career of Joe Biden.

She is clearly out of her league on the national stage.

That's a shame because I think she should be commended for her excellent record as a corruption buster in Alaska. She has successfully fought the powerfully corrupt political insiders in her own Alaskan Republican establishment. I applaud her for that and only wish our own Governor would follow that example and stop befriending the corrupt political Bosses in New Jersey.

Governor Palin is a very competent woman with the wrong ideology and a weak resume. She is the wrong choice for John McCain.

On The Waterfront since 1954

08/29/08 9:15 pm

Palin is a Great Choice


All day the talking heads have been saying how little experience she has. That may be true, but she has more experience in an executive position than Obama does. It's just simple math, 2 is greater than 0. Obama has been in the Senate for 4 years, 1 out of 100 people like him. There is no major legislation taht bears his name. He never chaired or took a central role in any committee of note. If anybody wants to argue that McCain made a mistake in putting someone as "inexperienced" as Palin in the VP slot then there is one conclusion that can't be escaped. America may get an inexperienced president if 1)McCain wins and then passes or 2) Obama wins.

As far as identifying with the majority of Americans, I think out of the four people on that ticket that description would best fit Palin. When she first ran for government one of her biggest concerns was property taxes. That is something I think EVERY person in NJ should understand. I doubt Biden and Obama have given much thought to what pressure an onerous tax system can put on the middle class. If they did, why are they promising tax increases?

And in regards to the Kudlow interview, I guess Democrats don't do nuance. The Constitution states that a VP may break Senate ties, but its silent on the rest of the job. What that job entails depends on the President. Cheney, for better and mostly for worst, seems to have been a very active VP. But it's hard to see what Al Gore or Dan Quayle did with their time in the White House. By most accounts, George H.W. Bush spent most of his time dealing with foreign dignitaries. So no one really knows what a VP will do with most of their days, as it mostly depends on who the President is.

08/29/08 10:05 pm

Breath of Fresh Air


unlike the jaded elitist Democrats like Mulloy,Martin etc. This Lady is just what America needs right now. Mr Biden can spout out 30 years of failed liberal of policy until the cows come home.   ( the sum total of his experience). Biden has never met a payroll in his life. His many failed attempts to box his way accross the Delaware river into the American heartland have failed over and over again. His inability to look over his bifocals into the hearts and minds of Americans is a testament to his lack of qualifications. Liberals forget that we are a Republic where ones actions outway the trappings of a resume. Palin is an all American woman who wont put up with any BS from the UN or PUTIN

08/29/08 10:18 pm

Alaska


Palin has governed a frozen tundra with a population less than a tenth of the size of New Jersey for less than two years. She fired the director of public safety because he wouldn't fire the state trooper who divorced her sister. I don't want Zulima Farber Two as my Vice-President.

08/29/08 11:08 pm

Palin's ideology identifies with no one


Sorry, MiddleClassSqueeze. But Palin doesn't identify with many people in America, never mind the majority. She is a far right-wing anti-choice conservative. People aren't buying that brand of soap any more. They figured out how bogus it is. George W. Bush discredited that entire philosophy. Conservatism doesn't help people, it hurts.

So Gov. Palin can take her Bush/McCain ideology and go back up to moose territory where that kind of thinking may be acceptable.

And she can say "hello" to her good friend, Senator Ted Stevens while she's up there. You know, the guy she refused to condemn even though he is on trial for corruption.

Palin can spend her time up in the Alaskan woods studying textbooks to find out what a Vice President does.

On The Waterfront since 1954

08/29/08 11:51 pm

If you haven't noticed....


not all of the United States is like New Jersey. Not all of the United States likes to tax its middle class to the point of driving it to another state. Not all the United States shares New Jersey's moderate to liberal views. If they did, we would be a one party country.
This pick wasn't for the liberal set that would not vote for McCain either way. This pick was for bringing more people into his camp, be they from the GOP base and like some of Palin's more conservative views. Or even those who just want to see a woman in the White House and are a little pissed still about some of the hate spewed toward Hillary by some Dems in the primary. In a close race, he only needs a few more percentage points to make the difference.
Oh and by the way, while that was a good shot at trying to link Ted Stevens to Sarah Palin, if being linked by party to an indicted politician was enough to be disqualified from higher office, no one in the New Jersey Democratic Party would be able to run for years to come. And like I said, what a Vice President does, aside from that one Constitutional duty, depends on the President.
Whose to say Joe Biden wouldn't be twiddling his thumbs for 4 years while the guy who was a US Senator for 15 minutes decided he can do everything himself.

08/30/08 1:18 am

Terry Malloy Who?


Just think if the so called "anti-choice conservative" wasn't here you might have probably just as well have been a Dead Piece of Human Flesh on the Floor or in the Sink of some backroom Abortionist.

08/30/08 2:27 am

Comes back to the same thing


The only thing they can attack her on is being the conservative Mayor of a town the size of Bogota and sharing Steve Lonegan's view on abortion.

It's great to see the NJ GOP finally coming around. On to 2009!

08/30/08 8:46 am

CHANGE


Seems like the DEMS only like CHANGE if it's someone who agrees with them. 44 and a fresh face. New ideas and against the staus quo. What does the VP do? In case of emergency break glass. Until recent history NOTHING. The President decides if the VP does anything substantial. You poltical experts should know that. Plus the experiance factor is an argument Obama doesn't want. Remember, Alaska has a border with Russia and the Alaska National Guard has a real enemy at it's border. We have air bases in Alaska and other strategic infrastructure such as oil. Obama has been in charge of?????

08/30/08 8:57 am

Does anybody really care


who has the VP slot?

08/30/08 11:39 am

PC517


You should know better than to say the VP does nothing. You have just lived through 16 years of the two most involved Vice-Presidents in American history. Al Gore served as Clinton's most important advisor, regularly proposed policies and cast votes in the Senate, and helped advance funding for digital technology. Cheney has practically written all of US policy for the past 8 years. Palin has no idea what the VP is supposed to do, and brings no ideas of her own to the table. She's a trophy pick, chosen for women to blindly associate with.

Alaska does not share a border with Russia, it shares an ocean. There are so few troops in Russia's most Eastern regions. Air bases and strategic infrastructure in Alaska are not controlled by Palin, but the Federal Government.

08/30/08 1:57 pm

Advisor?


I'm sure that Clinton has said that Gore was an important advisor. But just because Clinton said something, doesn't make it true. If you haven't noticed, he has been known to embellish a bit. Gore did break ties in the Senate, and I'm sure each time he voted the way his boss wanted him too. He may have proposed policies, but how many times were those policies actually implemented? The power of the vice presidency is determined solely by the level of deference the president gives them.

08/30/08 5:37 pm

Palin is a plus plus plus


I was planning on voting for Bob Barr because I know he is Conservative and McCain has been a disappointment by giving too many victories to the Democrats.

Now, I am excited and can't wait to vote for McCain-Palin. Sarah Palin has pulled all of us disgruntled Conservative Republicans together. Obama sewed up the nomination before Rev. Wright, Odinga Connection, Ayres, and Resco. If the media did their job Obama would have been flushed away giving Democrats a chance. Timing is everything, if Sarah was picked a week ago, Clinton would have been Obama's Veep.

We need a shewed President to stick it to the godless traitors populating the Democrat congress.

Checkmate . . . McCain wins!!

 

 

"Study the Constitution,  Let it be preached fom the pulpit, proclaimed in the legislatures,and enforced in courts of justice." ~ Abraham Lincoln 

08/30/08 4:20 pm

Even Joe likes her.


And Joe thinks Steve Lonegan is a RINO.

08/30/08 7:11 pm

Democrats are in a panick mode!


What else would you expect from the Democratic Party apparatchik? “Palin cant fill the attack dog role that the VP needs to because she has limited expirience.” If that is the case why so much worry? Democrats after their coronation of the next President of the USA and setting ambitious agenda to socialize America to the point that it will be unrecognizable from France and Germany put together, found themselves facing a “hockey mom” from Alaska. It is “only in America story” that trumps the story of Sen. Obama. All of a sudden, panicked Democrats are running all over the place looking for dirt to throw at the first woman nominated on the GOP ticket. It is a moment that all Republicans waited for. It is their call to arms! I can assure you that this call will be answered by all Republicans more united than orchestrated unity in Denver. Most Americans will join in this call to arms pretty soon. That is what worries Democrats the most.

08/31/08 1:36 am

Veep Shoots Moose and Wear's Black High Heel Leather Boots!


Veep Where's Black High Heel Leather Boots and Shoots Moose!

I have nothing against women political leaders being very smart and sexy but this Pale nomination in comparison to Tom Ridge, Tim Pawlenty, Kate Baily Hutchinson and Romney borders on: farcical and a fiasco. I can see the headlines, now! President McCain chokes on a bagel and lox and is admitted to Walter Reed hospital!

Seven days after John McCain is inaugurated: Vice President Sarah Palin is sworn in as President of the U.S., Commander In Chief and leader of the free world at McCain's hospital bed side!  And forty eight hours later, acting U.S. President Sarah Palin gets a 3 am phone call...Russia reinvaded Georgia! And suddenly we are thrust into a full blown international crises and the next thing you know: Acting U.S. President, commander in chief and the leader of the free world Sarah Palin is sitting across the table from Vladimir Putin and the Russian delegation. And she warns Puty up front, "Unlike the former Vice President, I can shoot straight! And I never missed a target when I was a Governor of Alaska!"

John McCain endorses Sarah Palin's campaign stump speech on the trail yesterday,

"The P.T.A. Ice Fishing, being a lifetime member of the NRA, a creationist advocate, global warming ney sayer, Dr. Dobson devotee, and serving on the Wassilla Town Council plus less than two years of solid executive experience in Alaska" is sufficient experience and great preparation for dealing with the K.G.B., Putin, CIA, FBI, Iran, Iraq and Osama Bin Laden!"

I know my Republican friends are -way over the moon and slap happy about a McCain and Palin ticket! And they will say that I'm a sexist Democrat and a gross under estimator of her qualifications to be President.

While I think she has many notable accomplishments. I don't think for a single second that she is ready in the wink of an eye to become President of the United States, Commander in Chief and Leader of the free world. She doesn't have the gravitas or enough world(ly) experience to make or give orders to General Petraeus!

John McCain needs what Kinky Friedman calls "A complete checkup from the neck up and a.s.a.p.!"

In choosing Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin to be his running mate, McCain claims he is thinking like a maverick "outside the box,"

But more crazy like a fox "Out of control and Out of his mind!" Now he is stuck in a reckless McCaniac moment and can't get out of it!

08/31/08 7:12 pm

Oh, Kathy. . .


Palin doesn't "where" high heels. She "wears" them. And I doubt McCain will choke to death a week into his Presidency. You leftists will say just about anything, won't you?

Yesterday that little troll, Michael Moore, expressed his joy at the fact that a hurricane is barrelling down on the Gulf Coast and forcing people to leave their homes.  But he wasn't the only nut to do so.  No, on his way home from the DNC Convention yesterday, former National Chairman of the Democratic National Committee Don Fowler expressed his joy as well.

And Last week Madonna equated McCain with Hitler. Is it comforting to place yourself with the company of bomb-throwers like Moore and Madonna?

"I figure people drift toward liberalism at a young age, and I always hope that they change when they see how the world really is.”
- Johnny Ramone

08/31/08 9:34 am

Too Much


Wow, you even have talking points that the Obamamians don't have.

You write that McCain is out of his mind?

This long winded post shows you have more issues then he does.

Just apply the same questions to Obama and he doesn't pass either.

08/31/08 9:31 am

What do Obama and Biden do?


Kathy described a hypothetical scenario for Gov. Palin and what she would do. This is what President Obama and Vice President Biden would do: The phone rings at the White House at 3 am. Russia reinvaded Georgia! After a bit of confusion, President Obama is located sleeping on the couch after an argument with Michelle over his less than inspirational speech to the Girls Scouts of America, where he did not mention their daughters and their role in the leadership of the Chicago branch of the Girls Scouts. After locating Georgia on the map, President Obama calls an emergency meeting of the National Security Council, all 45 officials must report to him immediately (NSC was reorganized by the Obama/Biden team to include all 300 foreign policy advisers that worked for him during campaign). At 4:30 am 35 officials have been brought to the White House. In the meantime, VP Biden was being flown back to the White House from his home in Delaware. In the meantime, President Obama has made frantic calls to leaders of France, Germany, and Italy. He reminded them that he made a speech in Berlin, Germany, where he laid out foundations of his foreign policy where the world is one and the responsibility for the world’s affairs lay with all nations in the world. Leaders of France, Germany, and Italy agreed to hold an emergency EU meeting of foreign ministers next day. At 5 am. President Obama and VP Biden and 35 NSC officials with their staffers convened an emergency meeting on national security. President Obama informed the group about his talks with Europeans and their total agreement to hold EU consultations next day. After a two hour discussion, the NSC decides to set an emergency phone bank to consult all leaders in the world in order to poll them on the Georgia crisis. The FedExField (home stadium of the Washington Redskins) was rented to house the phone bank, NSC emergency operations, staffers, etc. NSC also decided that the President Obama will make a speech to national audience (televised by every available outlet in the nation) and a live audience bussed to the stadium at 7 pm. By 4 pm. it was clear that only 123 world leaders were polled (the result was: 89 leaders referred the matter to the full session of the UN, 20 leaders had no opinion, with 14 leaders split among the following actions: protest note send to Russian President, send a truck convoy with humanitarian supplies to Georgia, give an interview on the national network in India to condemn the invasion). At 7 pm the show started at the FedExField. Barbara Streisand opened with rendition of the Beatles song “Strawberry Fields Forever,” followed by poetry reading by Maya Angelou. Exactly at 7:30 pm. President Obama and VP Biden were introduced by George Clooney and Jennifer Aniston. President Obama started his speech with thanking Hillary Clinton for the 3:45 am. phone call followed by President Clinton at 4 am. President Clinton accidently was in Kazakhstan and offered his mediating skills while on his way to Paris. President Obama informed the nation that all necessary steps were taken in order to stop this illegal invasion of Georgia and that all diplomatic channels were open. The USA undertook the following steps: called for an emergency meeting of the UN General Council, VP Biden will leave after this speech to travel to the region for emergency consultations with leaders there, the US Army was notified about the situation, the intelligence community was warned against unauthorized involvement in the conflict. Finally, President Obama read a message he sent to President Medvedev of Russia. The speech was followed by U2 concert. Free hats, tea shirts, and coffee mugs with Obama/Biden names were handed out.

08/31/08 9:37 am

Candidacy Ahead of Country...


Good one. I wish that would have been funny.

Anyway, Kathy raises a point. Is Palin ready to be President of the United States? An Editor and Publisher article by Greg Mitchell points out that three weeks ago, Karl Rove said that if Obama were to pick Tim Kaine, who has been governor of Virginia for less than three years, as his VP, Obama would clearly be more interested in picking a politically beneficial candidate rather than someone who could handle the responsibilities of the Presidency.

Take a look: "With all due respect again to Governor Kaine, he's been a governor for three years, he's been able but undistinguished," Rove said. Palin has been governor -- of a much, much smaller state -- for less than two years.

Rove also said: "I don't think people could really name a big, important thing that he's done. He was mayor of the 105th largest city in America." Palin was formerly mayor of a town that must be ranked about 15,000th biggest in America.

He added, "So if he were to pick Governor Kaine, it would be an intensely political choice where he said, `You know what? I'm really not, first and foremost, concerned with -- is this person capable of being president of the United States?'" "

Hell, if nothing else, Karl Rove is a genius who understands politics. And he understands exactly why McCain picked Palin. McCain put his candidacy ahead of his country.

08/31/08 12:51 pm

So now Dems are using Rove to make their point.


I thought Democrats thought he was going to hell? It was more important for Obama to pick someone with experience, being that he doesn't have much. When the person at the top of the ticket has the experience, then they get more wiggle room to pick a Dan Quayle or Jon Edwards or Sarah Palin.

08/31/08 1:41 pm

No they don't...


When that person is 72 years old and has had four bouts with cancer, no, they don't get more wiggle room.

08/31/08 2:08 pm

But Dems do...


But Democrats can still put the person with no experience on the top of the ticket because....he has a babysitter in the 2nd spot?  If foreign relations is what you will base your pick on, you have the option of going with the candidate that has experience, or the one that's been in the US Senate for 15 minutes.  If having a VICE President with foreign policy experience is of paramount importance, then Biden is clearly the way to go.  I just wonder how many people vote based on the foreign policy experience of the vice presidential picks?

08/31/08 3:16 pm

Interesting Thing About Obama's Experience...


I seem to remember that in October 2002 that Barack Obama had already amassed enough experience and wisdom to oppose the invasion of Iraq, something which McCain strongly supported and currently still supports.

Barack was experienced enough to know that we should follow the terrorists to Afghanistan instead of the oil to Iraq.

I'll take the President with the wisdom and experience to make the right choices, not the popular ones, thank you very much.

08/31/08 4:03 pm

Wow


That was bold opposing the war in Iraq while a State Senator in Illinois. That had the exact amount of influence as Sarah Palin's stance on Iraq in 2002. How did he vote on FISA? Fact is, if he's President he's going to have to take a stand on something. When he was in the Illinois Senate his favorite way to vote was "present". I wonder if he knows you can't vote "present" and that very few issues are "above your pay grade" when you are president.

08/31/08 5:10 pm

Taking a Stand...


I'm sure he'll take a stand on something, for instance, targeted tax-cuts for 95% of Americans. And investing $150 billion over the next 10 years to end dependence on foreign oil. And ending that war in Iraq that McCain still supports.

08/31/08 7:34 pm

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08/31/08 7:33 pm

SPIN


Wow, these liberals are in full campaign spin and it's not even October yet. Weil should get something from this website for the time he put into writing that post. It was satire, but it better written then some of crap Torch and Katz have written on here. Classy move tonight by McCain to basically suspend the GOP convention tommorrow night because of the potential disaster that is pending. I am sure the wing nuts will find something wrong in that too.

08/31/08 8:43 pm

I'm sure he'll take a stand


I'm sure he will take a tough stand on taxes. Just like the New Jersey Democrats have taken a stand on property taxes and helping the middle class. They stand on raising taxes and not lifting a finger for the middle class. Just like New Jersey Democrats have taken a stand on improving Jersey schools, no matter how much money gets "lost" and "mismanaged" they will always be willing to throw money at it. Oversight be damned. Listen, if you are a middle class taxpayer...say making $50-60K per year, you are a SUCKER if you think he's going to cut your taxes. A rebate is not a tax cut, its money you already gave government coming back to you without interest. His programs will require the middle class be hit, be it on capital gains on their retirement accounts, uncapping the payroll tax, or redefining "rich" much like the way Jersey Democrats redefined a million dollars as $500K when it came to the Millionairs tax. When it comes to matters of trust, why would you trust someone who wants billions for new goverment programs and has Jon Corzine as an economic advisor?

08/31/08 9:13 pm

PC517


Actually, PC, the left wing nuts have already expressed their sheer joy at the arrival of Gustav coinciding with the GOP convention. A former head of the DNC and that troll Michael Moore were quoted yesterday regarding their feelings about the aformentioned.

Pathetic, ain't it?

"I figure people drift toward liberalism at a young age, and I always hope that they change when they see how the world really is.”
- Johnny Ramone

08/31/08 9:17 pm

Standing by my Stand


Hey Squeeze, no one is talking about tax rebates. We're talking about tax cuts. No one in the top 5% of America is making 50-60k a year. But by all means, stick to the party line of taxes, taxes, taxes.

And Schlip, you mentioned the DNC and Michael Moore being quoted expressing joy at Gustav's arrival coinciding with the start of the Republican National Convention. Why not put the quote in your post if it actually happened? That would save everyone a lot of time and spin.

I probably don't like that troll any more than you do, but I'd like to see the quote before I condemn him for what would be an incredibly insensitive statement.

09/01/08 1:40 am

Independent. . .


It wasn't just Moore. A former DNC Chair was caught on tape making similar comments while flying home from Denver.

But hey, the far left are angry, hateful people. That's why they make movies full of untruths and compare Hitler to McCain, etc. Look at Olberman and Co. over at the "We hate the GOP" network.

They preach tolerance, so long as you are lockstep with them.

"I figure people drift toward liberalism at a young age, and I always hope that they change when they see how the world really is.”
- Johnny Ramone

09/01/08 8:08 am