August 27, 2008 - 1:36pm
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Saxton donates $400k to NRCC, but there's no guarantee it will help Myers

Retiring U.S. Rep. Jim Saxton is giving $400,000 of his roughly $1 million war chest to the cash strapped National Republican Congressional Committee (NRCC), by far the largest donation he’s ever made to the organization.

If the NRCC chooses, they can pour some or all of that money into ad buys in the 3rd Congressional District, where Saxton’s heir apparent, Medford Mayor Chris Myers, is outfunded by opponent John Adler by a margin of 10-1. As of the last FEC report, Myers had $155,000 on hand to Adler’s nearly $1.5 million.

The problem is that Saxton can’t even suggest to NRCC officials where they should send the money. It's illegal to earmark funds for a candidate.

“He can’t do that. There are absolutely no strings attached by law,” said Saxton Communications Director Jeff Sagnip, who used to work part-time for the Myers campaign as well. “There’s no guarantee that they could send it here.”

Saxton has given yearly donations to the NRCC, but never more than $250,000 at one time.

Saxton is still sitting on $600,000, however, and will likely keep his campiang account open after retirement.

“The remainder he’s going to retain to help future Republican candidates in future elections to try to get out the GOP message,” said Sagnip.

Myers Campaign Manager Chris Russell wouldn't even go as far as to say he hopes the money somehow winds up in District 3.

"As you know, its not up to us what Congressman Saxton or the NRCC do with their money.  What is in our control is running an aggressive campaign that continues to highlight the stark differences between Chris Myers and John Adler," he said. 

No comment was immediately available from the NRCC.

MATT FRIEDMAN is a PolitickerNJ.com Reporter and can be reached via email at matt@politicsnj.com.
Related topics: Jim Saxton, Chris Myers

Comments

Not a chance in hell...


Not a chance in hell that this money goes to helping Chris Myers, especially after the Dem Convention, where Adler as put on a national stage.

DCCC has already put up $1.7 million into this race, and even if the NRCC used the full 400K that can't even buy network TV in Philly or NYC.

Put this one in the win column for John Adler. This was Myers last chance. Goes to show even Jim Saxton has given up on Chris "the economy is basically strong" Myers.

08/27/08 2:51 pm

You're nuts


You're nuts. I am glad you know the inner workings of the NRCC. Just goes to show you that they allow any moron on this board to post. The NRCC will be involved. Bet on it. And another campaign brainiack. Don;t need to do Philly and NYC tv - cable is much cheaper and 400k will buy plenty of time. Saxton hasn;t given up - just got the invite to the Lobster Bake where Chris is featured. You are clueless.

08/27/08 2:55 pm

Interesting


It's interesting that Chris Myers is never mentioned in a positive light. He's always complaining about some slight, real or imagined, and begging for an apology from someone, usually John Adler.

08/27/08 2:57 pm

OMGGGG


OMGGG, MYERS IS GOING TO WIN, HES GOING TO JIM SAXTONS LOBSTER BAKE!!!!! Money or Lobster Bake, Money or Lobster Bake, which one you think matters more???

It only proves your true idiocy if you think that the NRCC is putting 400K in this race...Remember "it only has to look like we've won, strike that, that Saxton and Ocean County Republicans are supporting us!"

08/27/08 3:17 pm

Myers campaign just gave away strategic intelligence


Don't trust him with any classified information.

Newsflash:

There will be no Myers ads on television this fall.

You're absolutely right, junior. Cable is better.

My friends, stick a fork in him.

08/27/08 3:24 pm

You two are clueless


When Jim Saxton beat Susan Bass Levin - how many network tv ads did he have? None. How many did Susan have? Several. How many cable ads did Saxton have? Tons. How is Susan's congressional career going? You have no idea about how to run a campaign. Spew your bs - it won't stick. And moron II - you stated Saxton wouldn't be involved. I proved he would be. Then you blather like the moron you are. And who is the idiot? The NRCC will be providing funds to this race. Guarantee it.

08/27/08 3:34 pm

"You love me - you really love me!"


John Adler's national stage? Please on and off the stage so his wife can take a photo does not a national stage make.

Please note his ridiculous "Quote of the Day" - he truly is a self centered egotist.

Besides, he should be in the district talking to voters and apologizing for his COAH vote.

Regardless, he is down in the DCCC polls and will need every nickel he can get to at least not embarrass himself.

Saxton donation is one of many guys. Keep telling yourselves that a Cherry Hill liberal lawyer/Trenton politician can win in OC and be enough for BC to go against their own.

Ain’t gonna happen

08/27/08 3:40 pm

You're such an insider...


Glad to see that the oc is an insider at the Myers campaign and the NRCC. Just another Chris Myers pawn!

Comparing the 2000 election to this year is just idiotic. Totally different, two totally different candidates on each side in an entirely different set of circumstances. If all you got is Susan Bass Levin to use, you going to be crying a hell of lot come November 5th...

08/27/08 3:43 pm

PUT UP OR SHUT UP


Once again I ask you PUT UP OR SHUT UP on this DCCC poll. Show it here or shut up and stop using it as a reference.

Looks like abetternjnow is going to be crying with the oc on November 5th if all hes got is a made up DCCC poll that doesn't exist!!!!

08/27/08 3:46 pm

Doublestandard


I love how the oc makes fun of everyone who makes a prediction about the NRCC and then turns around and guarantees the NRCC will be providing funds.

It's also strange that the oc continues to compare Chris Myers to Jim Saxton and John Adler to Susan Bass Levin.

I think everyone, including the Sierra Club, PBA, NJ FOP, NJ Firefighters, Teamsters, and Recreational Fishing Alliance, agrees that Chris Myers is no Jim Saxton.

The NRCC is going to write this race off and concentrate on closer races like NJ-7 and more important seats.

Myers just can't seem to get anything for himself.

08/27/08 3:48 pm

Maybe


Maybe just maybe I know something about the NRCC and the fact that they will be involved? Ever thought of that Einstein. So it is not a doublestandard. Don't use words you don't understand. And SJ - I am not an "insider" in Chris Myers campaign. For the last time, I am not now nor have I ever been employed by Chris Myers' campaign. I just know what I am talking about unlike yourself. And the comparison is certainly vaild.

08/27/08 5:04 pm

Weird...


the oc, are you implying that you are employed or an insider at the NRCC? It's weird how angry you get when people discuss the potential actions of the NRCC and then pretend you know everything when it comes to that committee.

I would call your treatment of other users comments about the NRCC a double-standard. CitizenSJ is clueless when he comments about the NRCC but you "maybe, just maybe" know what you're talking about.

If you are an NRCC employee or insider, I will have no problem accepting what you say. But, as you keep telling everyone you aren't, you're just as clueless as anyone else who comments on these articles. You've given us no reason to believe a thing you've said.

And just so that you can improve your writing in the future, your first sentence should have ended in a period and the second one in a question mark.

08/27/08 5:23 pm

And the truth shall set you free...


Finally an admission that the oc has some sort of ties to the NRCC. Ditto everything that Indy OC said above. He hit the nail on the coffin.

08/27/08 5:31 pm

LOOK AT ADLER's HISTORY


New Jersey is the most corrupt state thanks to OUR SITTING legislature.  Adler is one of them.  How about this Parole Board officer that ADLER is responsible for putting into the position, even though unqualified....and people don't think that is ridiculous?

08/27/08 10:29 pm

Off-Topic


Looks like someone came onto this topic only to bash Adler and not to discuss the NRCC, Saxton, or Myers.

First off, then-Governor Dick Codey nominated Charles Jones, but no one complains about that.

Second, the guy wrote a letter expressing an opinion based on his experience with Sharpe James. So what? He didn't introduce himself as Charles Jones, State Parole Board Officer. He introduced himself as Charles Jones, former aide to Sharpe James. He didn't abuse his office in hopes of evading the legal system, unlike, say, the Burlco GOP, which has been using taxpayer money as a bank account for its top fundraisers.

Not one person has been able to produce a case where a parole eligible prisoner has been inappropriately by Charles Jone.

As much as Cardinale, the Senate Republicans, and Myers want to make this into some sort of travesty, some appalling issue, it's not. People don't really care about Charles Jones.

People care about $4.00 gas. They care about $4.50 loaves of bread. They care about the 4,000 dead and the billions spent in Iraq. They care about foreign oil dependence, rising healthcare costs, and rising college tuition. They care about the outsourcing of jobs and the rising unemployment rate. They care about record home foreclosures.

How out of touch is Chris Myers anyway? Right, he still thinks "the economy is basically strong."

08/27/08 11:03 pm

NRCC insider "the" oc can't deliver for Myers


The NRCC made multiple ad buys today according to the Politico, and Chris Myers ain't one of em. NRCC insider "the oc" can't deliver for his boy Chris "the economy is basically strong" Myers...

For a list of races the NRCC does care about check this link: http://www.swingstateproject.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=2894

Now you see it, now you don't: Jim Saxton's 400K just went out the window...to everyone and their mother, but NOT Chris Myers.

08/27/08 11:12 pm

Moron 1 and 2


I feel like this is a bad Dr. Seuss book. Instead of Thing 1 and 2, we have Moron 1 and 2. I never said I was employed by the NRCC. In fact Moron 1 (fake oc), I clearly stated on another post topic that I am not nor have I ever been employed by any federal GOP organization. The statement included the RNC and NRCC. Do you have an inability to comprehend the written word? The reading comprehension classes at Burlington County Community College are not working? Go to this site and register online for the love of God: https://bcconline.bcc.edu/WebAdvisor/WebAdvisor?TOKENIDX=4762583030&SS=1... - it may be a little advanced for you but it is English as a second language course. Good luck. Now for Moron 2 (CitSNJ) - are you a parrot? Do you have any opinions or views that are your own. For the past week you have been regurgitating something that someone else has said - the yeah what he or she said response adds to the belief that you are just some intern who gets his jollies thinking you are important. Go back to getting Adler some coffee or filing newspaper clippings. Want a cracker Polly??

08/28/08 9:07 am

Off topic


Off topic - that is the biggest load of crap I have heard. Jones certainly violated the basic nature of his position. The Parole Board is charged with being the "lead reentry agency, and works to ensure ex-prisoners return to society as law-abiding citizens." Now how can he accomplish his job when he believes that someone found guilty by the courts is innocent and that there is some type of conspiracy to "get" Sharpe James? The bottom line is that he cannot do his job. A job I might add that he was not qualified for based on the requirements set in law. But I forgot, that does not matter to you. Additionally, what committee ok'd his nomination? The one John Adler chairs. And was the vote conducted in an open forum or was it closed to everyone and no records allowed to be taken? The answer is no it was not done openly and yes, the committee chairman refused to allow for the proceedings to be recorded. So much for honest and ethical. John Adler has as much responsibility for Jones getting his position as Cody does.

08/28/08 9:15 am

"You love me - you really love me!" - Adler, Aug 26, 2008


Sure - I will get you the DCCC poll and post it on here right away.

You know those guys at the DCCC are always willing to show polls of their candidates when they are down.

While you are waiting, could you please post the minutes of Parole Board hearing? Also could you provide me the Adler memo regarding his abrupt management shake up?

Thanks in advance,

G.G. Liddy

08/28/08 9:49 am

Inconsistencies


abetternjnow, there's no better way to show to everyone you're making something up than by repeatedly changing the owner of that something. First it was Adler's internal poll, now it's the DCCC's internal poll. If you're going to shout a lie over the internet and hope some news outlet takes you seriously enough to call one of the campaigns and run a story, you should at least be consistent.

the oc, no matter how many times you clearly state that you don't work for the RNC or the NRCC or the Myers campaign, no one believes you. It's an internet forum and all of your posts are so stridently biased and usually don't answer any specific argument but rather insult the poster. As long as you post on this site, every person reading will think either Myers or Tom Cole is whispering in your ear.

Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if you were Myers himself sitting angrily at a computer muttering "Adler must apologize" over and over.

Now on to the Charles Jones case, where you lack understanding of what happened. Charles Jones' nomination came up, some Republicans questioned his credentials, the session was recessed to discuss his credentials. At this point, the recording process stops as the committee is not in session, the Senators discuss things among themselves, and then the session begins again, and a vote passes. A vote that involves both Democrats and Republicans.

the oc, if something improper happened during the Charles Jones hearings, don't you think Cardinale, Kyrillos, and Baroni would be shouting it to the press right now? Of course they would. Instead, they're shouting about his letter on behalf of Sharpe James. Gormley has publicly stated that he doesn't remember the Charles Jones hearings, because there was nothing remarkable about them.

08/28/08 10:30 am

Congratulations


Congratulations Maxwell Smart. You found me out. I am really Karl Rove. You are just too smart for me to keep up this charade any longer. Seriously, to be honest, I don't care if you believe me. I am not a liar but it is your choice. I don't believe that you are an independent. It is clear you are firmly in the Democrat camp. But opinions are like a holes, every one has got them. I have never ducked a question. I have answered all of your questions. You were the one who stammered and stuttered and refused to answer my questions for over a day and a dozen posts. And you obviosuly have no clue what you are talking about regarding the Jones confirmation. From the Daily Record: Adler said he couldn't remember how his committee approved Jones' nomination. According to the Legislature's audio archives, the judiciary committee took a break after Republicans questioned Jones' qualifications. The recording never resumes to reveal how senators resolved the concerns. Jones was approved by the committee and full Senate the same day. The Session was not recorded before or during the vote. Highly suspicious. In fact it clearly states that Adler does not recall what happened. An Admiral Stockdale moment? Why am I here?? And Cardinale IS shouting to the press but Adler is ignoring him: http://www.politickernj.com/gopsenatecomm/22729/cardinale-public-deserve... So before you make things up, please be sure that there is not a clear documented history to rebut your ficticous stories. http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080801/OPINION01/8080104...

08/28/08 11:54 am

If you took the time...


If you took the time to read the press released attached, Cardinale complains only about the letter Jones wrote, not about the confirmation hearing. Both Democrats and Republicans approved the vote. If the Republicans knew about something shady that happened, it would have come out by now.

Stop restating what I said with more exclamation points. Take the time to read what you send. It doesn't matter if something is highly suspicious. There are people who have things to gain by revealing wrongdoing, and yet, nothing has been revealed.

And yes, every time I read a Myers press release, or a comment from one of his staffers, it pushes me further and further away from the center and into the Democrat camp. At least Adler doesn't try to waste my time with ridiculous demands and calls for apologies.

08/28/08 12:02 pm

Try reading the whole thing


It is not JUST about the letter. It is about the qualifications of Jones. Or should I say the lack of qualifications for the position. Do not tell me what to do while you are at it. If I want to repost the garbage you spew with a hundred exclamation marks, I will. However, show me where I reposted anything you said with exclamation marks. And possibly things could be revealed if Adler would hold a hearing - but he refuses to. Or if Cody would not have a senior moment and remember the nomination of an individual who was not qualified for the position. But the attempts by the majority to deter getting to the bottom of how this person was selected is disturbing. And you were never in the center. You are a partisan hack. At least be honest - for a change!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

08/28/08 12:25 pm

Wait


the oc, I just realized something.

None of the NRCC money is going to go to Myers. They've given up on NJ-3.

08/28/08 1:04 pm

When did you start working


When did you start working for the NRCC? You are intimately knowledgable about where they are going to send their money? You have been in meetings with them to make that declaration? Your ranblings, half truths and Oliver Stone theories are beginning to bore me. Get back to me when you have something of interest.

08/28/08 1:38 pm

PS


Nice change of subject.  Too bad you don;t have the guts to back up your stuttering and stammering....

08/28/08 1:39 pm

Subject


I believe the subject of the original post is: Saxton gives money to the NRCC and there's no reason to believe it will help Myers.

I don't know why you keep accusing me of stuttering and stammering when everything I write is nice, neat, and grammatically correct, while you misspell words like "ranblings," incorrectly punctuate words like "don;t," incorrectly punctuate lists of three items or more, end affirmative statements with question marks, and end rhetorical questions with periods.

Keep on ignoring the fact that Cardinale, Kyrillos, Baroni, and co. have not accused Adler of wrongdoing in the confirmation process. They, unlike you, were there.

CitizenSJ showed you where the NRCC is putting $8.8 million in media buys. Chris Myers isn't getting a cent.

If the NRCC had a real candidate in NJ-3, they would put up a fight. But with stammering, stuttering, sweating, verbal-gaffing Chris Myers on the ballot, they are going to cut their losses and move on. They'll leave the little guy to cry for apologies and support Big Oil's tax breaks on his own.

08/28/08 2:10 pm

Stop lying


Stop lying. That is not what the original post said. It said there is no guarantee. Two totally different meanings and phrases. Stop lying and twisting words to make a point. And give me a break. What I made were typos. What you did was claim some inside knowledge about Jack Kelly and the OCGOP yet spelled "Kelley's" name wrong. Not my fault if you don't know what you are talking about. Furthermore, they certainly are claiming Adler is neglecting his duty as Juducuary chair to call for a hearing to find out why the unqualified Jones got the position in the first place. And Moron I never showed me a thing that states where Saxton's money is going. Are you that ignorant not to know that the NRCC has more money than what Saxton gave and that they have several lists of races to which they will contribute? I know you claim to be some insider when it comes to the NRCC but now you are being ridiculous. Neither one of you has shown anyone proof that Myers will not received help from the NRCC. You can't because there isn't any. And nice regurgitating of the DCCC press material. You've exposed yourself for the liberal hack I pegged you for.

08/28/08 2:51 pm

the oc: Staying the Course


"Keep on ignoring the fact that Cardinale, Kyrillos, Baroni, and co. have not accused Adler of wrongdoing in the confirmation process. They, unlike you, were there." Way to address this point. 10 out of 10 Ocean, Burlington, and Camden county residents will have no idea who Charles Jones is if you ask them. So, by all means, keep trying to make something out of nothing.

The NRCC has much less cash on hand than the DCCC. Myers won't get a cent.

Feel free to show us why he will, or should, get any money from the NRCC. They have legitimate candidates all over the country, people like Leonard Lance, in closer battles, who can use the money much more effectively than Myers.

08/29/08 8:53 pm

FYI


The NRCC bought a second round of ad buys again yesterday, another 9 million, and Chris Myers is once again no where to be found...National Republicans have abandoned Myers and NJ-3...

08/30/08 5:52 pm

CitizenSJ


I'm having trouble finding the numbers, but over the last two rounds of ad-buys it seems the NRCC has committed around $17 million. Not one of those dollars has gone to Myers. Anyway, do you know how much more cash they have on hand?

Myers chances are looking smaller everyday.

08/30/08 7:09 pm

List


Here is the list of new ad buy districts for the NRCC:

http://www.swingstateproject.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=2917

Don't know how much more cash they have, but Saxtons 400K just went about 20 different ways to 20 different districts, NJ-3 not being one of them...

08/31/08 2:54 am

More lies


I keep forgetting that you guys are the NRCC insiders. You are clueless. You have no direct knowledge of anything you speak of. Just Oliver Stoneesque theories. FYI - the NRCC just outraised the DCCC this past quarter. Where is the press release on that Mr. Cutandpaste? Still hungry for that cracker Polly?? And it is not about Charles Jones. However, I guarantee you that the people of Burlington and Camden are more intelligent about state government than you give them credit. So many will know who he is. But your scientific polling which lead you to 10 out of 10 people - was that conducted on a windy day by licking your finger and raising it up in the air? It is about John Adler shirking his responsibilities and allowing an unqualified hack get appointed through his committee to a job which he should not have gotten. Moreover, it is about Adler's failure to remedy the situation by calling for hearings - public and on the record - to determine how this nut job who thinks Sharpe James is innocent and their is a grand conspiracy out the get him got nominated in the first place. Maybe some more skeletons will fall out of the closet if the door is opened.

09/02/08 9:50 am