Andrews hits Fulop's base

By Matt Friedman | May 18th, 2008 - 12:30pm
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Hudson County is deep Frank Lautenberg territory, but Democratic Senate candidate Rob Andrews came to the heart of Jersey City’s downtown today to hold a town hall meeting.

“We will expand the campaign anywhere people will have us,” said Andrews before holding court at a gazebo in the city’s Hamilton Park. “There’s one rule in the Andrews campaign – you have to be young at heart, you have to be willing to support us.”

The meeting was organized by the local councilman, Seven Fulop – a likely mayoral candidate next year and frequent critic of Jersey City Mayor/HCDO Chairman Jerramiah Healy, who supports Lautenberg.

Fulop has developed a strong base in the city’s Ward E, which is dominated by the partially gentrified downtown section. He has given the Andrews campaign access his 10,000 member email list and plans to dispatch 200 volunteers and 10 lawyers for on Andrews's behalf leading up to election day.

With the full backing of the county’s Democratic machine behind him, Lautenberg is expected to beat Andrews by a large margin here in Hudson. Fulop acknowledged that Andrews is not likely to actually win here, but that with his help he may be able to narrow the gap.

“Our job on election day is to try to keep it closer than it would be, and if we have the ability to do that, what will end up happening is South Jersey will pull out big pluralities and we’ll go from there,” he said. “That’s the game plan, and it’s great to see that he’s up here in Hudson and involved.”

Even at the Andrews rally, signs of Lautenberg domination were apparent. In tell-tale HCDO fashion, small groups of youth stood at the entrances to the park holding Lautenberg signs, although at least one of them had a hard time pronouncing the Senator’s name (“Vote for LOO-ten-berg.”)

The Lautenberg supporters drew up signs imploring entrants to ask Andrews “Why support the Iraq War?,” “Why support a fence on the border?,” and “Why support Bush?”

Fulop – an Iraq vet who left a job at Goldman Sachs to join the Marines just after 9/11 -- said that he empathized with Andrews’s early support of the invasion. What matters, Fulop argued, is that since becoming a war critic in 2005, Andrews has worked to change Iraq policy (Lautenberg supported the war during his 2002 Senatorial campaign, but became a critic two years earlier than Andrews did).

“I’m a guy who wasn’t even registered to vote, and I went just based on the information as many people did at the time,” said Fulop. “I understand his temperament at that time.”

There are some interesting dynamics to the way the support for Andrews and Lautenberg has broken down here in the state’s second largest city. While Mayor Healy has put the county’s machinery to work for Lautenberg, every single one of Healy’s potential challengers next year has backed Andrews (save for Bret Schundler, a conservative Republican). There's Fulop, state Sen. Sandra B. Cunningham, Assemblyman L. Harvey Smith and former Assemblyman Lou Manzo.

Fulop, for his part, said that his support for Andrews has absolutely nothing to do with his likely quest for the mayor’s office.

“It’s totally divorced of it. I’ve asked for nothing, nor do I want anything,” he said. “I’d just like to see a Senator there who will be working 24/7 on our behalf, and that’s all I expressed to Rob Andrews, and I’m thankful he took the time to come up here.”

Andrews, for his part, didn’t say whether any of those potential candidates could count on help from him and his powerful South Jersey allies next year.

Kiss of Death

The Hudson County Kiss of Death is an endorsement from Councilman Steve Fulop. Fulop has endorsed Board of Education candidates and everyone of them has done down in flames, not one of them ever getting elected. Fulop endorsed Joe Vas when for congress against Sires. He endorsed Lou Manzo for NJ Senate against one of his early benefactor's widow, Sandra Bolden Cunningham. Another poor calculated endorsement. Cunningham wins. Fulop comes out early for Hillary Clinton and in the long run she is floundering. Fulop can't pick a winner if his life depended on it. Now Andrews? Fulop's endorsement has very little impact and the numbers he brags about with emails and members is very overblown, just like Fulop's ego.

Fulop does deliver

The opinions about Steve Fulop above are naive, overly broad, and uneducated. Look at the Election Day numbers in all the above endorsements. Each person won in Steven Fulop's ward. Fulop is not running the campaign and it is not his job to win the election. He as the councilman endorses a candidate and delivers the vote in Ward E. Andrews will beat Lautenturd in downtown Jersey City wait and see.

As for going against Sandy, 3 words: She Ain't Him. Sandy does not have a right over all political things that her husband owned. Want to talk about Fulop turning on Glenn? What about Sandy running with L. Harvey Smith on the HCDO line? Sandy's selling out caused Glenn to do a 360 in the grave long before Fulop endorsed Manzo. Andrews gets his best numbers for Jersey City in Ward E mark my words.

Fulop has more Workers than

Fulop has more Workers than Healy does and better committed volunteers also.If not for the HCDO Healy would be finished already.
A giant game of Chicken is taking place in Jersey City to see who will run against Jerry.If a coalition of Anti administration candidates comes together,its over.
Fulop doesn't have to pick any winners to beat any and all candidates in ward E.

WATCH OUT FOR AL PINE

In this era of "going green", Al could steal this Mayoral election. The last time he ran for Mayor his motto was "I'm the only tree on the ballot".

Legend in his own mind

Fulop has little name recognition outside his own ward. He's a headline grabber and takes credit for a lot of things he had little to do with.

Fulop is a legend in his own mind.

Lautenberg wins...

...2 to 1.

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Fulop is a Loser

Hey Hudson Shark, show me your numbers and I'll show you you mine! In my book Fulop hasn't won Ward E for anyone other than maybe Hilliary and that's a Presidential Primary which doesn't count since she would've got those numbers with or without Fulop! Look at the results for the Board of Ed Candidates, look at Vas's election, look at Manzo's election, show me exactly where those candidates won in Ward E.

He'll probably want to take credit for Eliu Rivera's Freeholder election coming up in June if Rivera wins. What's he going to do if Rivera loses? Huh, I guess he'll claim he was never really supporting him!! We'll see if his losing streak continues.

By the way, if you think Sandy Cunningham is not a formidable candidate in her own right then make sure your boy Fulop runs for Mayor so she can wipe the streets of Downtown with him and finally rid us of that headline grabbing parasite!!!

Excuse me Jay but the first

Excuse me Jay but the first two elections you mentioned were done with sandys support.Steve and Sandy both backed the same candidates.Sandy never lifted a finger.As for Manzo, fulop beat sandy in ward E except the projects which put her over the top.
Sandy is an empty suit propped up by a corrupt handler named Joe Cardwell who will sell her to the highest bidder.

Listen to Yourself

Mr Janitor, listen to what you're saying and stop the RACIST BULL. That's the problem with Fulop supporters. They come to Jersey City, Gentrify a Neighborhood, and then they feel they're entitled to special priviledges that include denigrating minorities and as you put it "The Projects". I don't think so! Just for your understanding and edification, "The Projects" which you admit put Sandy over the top are indeed in Downtown, they are part of ward E so where do you get off creating this racial boundary that distinguishes between "The Projects" and the rest of "Downtown". Get over it Mr Janitor Steve Fulop can't produce! And as for Sandy and Steve being together on the Vas campaign I can't speak to that but I will say that I didn't see any literature with Sandy supporting Vas. There was a bunch of Fulop with Vas mailings but none with Sandy.

So in the overall analysis, if we know that he didn't produce for Vas and you readily admit that he didn't produce for Manzo, and we know all his Board of Ed candidates have gotten clobbered, then I beg to ask the question, What in the World Can Steve Fulop Produce Politically? The answer is NOTHING!

Seriously?!

First, if you guys think Fulop has no support in Jersey City, then you've never been here...

Secondly, When Fulop pushes for a candidate they win in his Ward. Not the school board elections cause mostly everyone who votes in School board elections are machine loyalist. Vas didn't win hudson County cause Sires had every mayor in the county behind him. Big odds for a new councilman (at the time) to take on.

Last but not least, Fulop is lining a ticket next year to run for mayor and so far we know one pick is Jimmy Carroll in Ward D, so he's definitely picking out winners. He also might have Schundler as an at alrge candidate- I know that one hurt Dino.

You Be Serious!!

Obviously you're the one whose never been here since your rhetoric sounds more like a regurgitation of the Jersey Journal than someone who lives here or has some reasonable semblence of a political understanding. When you brandish yourself as a reformer you have to be able to reform. Fulop has done nothing constructive! Nothing for the City, his Ward or anyone but himself and some of his cronies.

If you're going to say he wins the ward for whoever he endorses than show me the names and numbers! You can't because he hasn't. He got elected in 2005 so 2008 will be the third primary he's somehow involved in. In 2006 he endorsed Vas, who proceeded to get clobbered. He lost Ward E also. In 2007 he endorsed Manzo who got clobbered and , eventhough it was closer, lost Ward E. In between he has lost with every candidate he supported for the Board of Ed. And when you state that only the machine loyalists vote in those elections that's exactly my point, he can't get the vote out for anyone! If he's so good and well loved why can't he get people to vote for his candidates. You know why he's a Loserrrr.

To touch on your other points. If Bret Shundler's running for anything in JC it'll be for Mayor. Having run for Governor twice Schundler will never, ever run for something that beneath him.. and if he does run for Mayor young Fulop's chances, which right now are to close to none, will drop to 0% chance. On top of that if Jim Carroll is the quality of candidates he's putting together than he is going to go nowhere real fast.

Just in case you don't know, Mr Carroll has been a duel and triple job holder. Working as a Police Officer, an Attorney for the County Law Department and as a Private Attorney! Did you know that the only reason Carroll broke with the Healy Administration was because his Brother wasn't "taken care of". So Please don't waste my time or that of other voters by trying to pass off a half ass neophyte reformer as a substantial Mayoral candidate or for that matter a Political Player. He (Fulop), GOT NO GAME!!

Opinions

6000 residents have signed his referendum, but he has no support at all right? And of coruse the referendum is being greedy? Although it might not pass he tried to change the way things work around here. At least he's trying...

Schundler is NO threat in Jersey City at all. You'll be the only one voting for him. Him entering the race will not damage Fulop's chance. Fulop is collecting grassroot support, how does Schundler affect that? He's time has passed, he has no downtown or JC support, and he should consider a lower office cause it's his only chance.

 Fulop will lose again because Andrews is obviously not winning at the moment. Tables will turn May 09.

As for Carroll having 3 jobs it doesn't bother me. Why, because he is willing to receive one salary out of all his jobs except his private office because it's not taxpayer paid salary. he isn't as bad as Gaughan who has 3 jobs and let's not go into how many JC jobs his daughters and wife has.

You're living in...

You're living in LALA Land if you think that Schundler wouldn't do any damage to young Fulop's chances in Jersey City! First of all, Schundler can finance a Million Dollar campaign with his own money, where's Fulop get his. Second, Schundler had his gaffes but he left office with a high favorable recognition factor. Fulop could only dream of getting those kinds of numbers. Third, I'm glad you and everyone else Fulop used in this so called grass roots effort scam have realized it's a losing battle. Fulop didn't do it because he's a reformer, he did it for name recognition!!

For all his talk about reforming government he hasn't done a heck of a lot! Let's see, he endorsed McGreevey (Governor), he endorsed Menendez (US Senator), he endorsed Vas (Congress), he endorsed Eliu Rivera (Freeholder) all Democratic Organization candidates. He's voted for tax abatements, he's taken money from municipal vendors and developers. Geez some REFORMER he is... If I didn't know any better I'd think he was part of the HCDO Mob!

Come Back, come back wherever you are!!

How do all the Fulop Worshippers feel about his endorsement of Andrews and having his Senate Candidate get his butt kicked. in particularly in his own Jersey City Ward. So much for a Mayoral Run!!

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