Governor Paralysis
By John Anonymous DoeAccording to the online source www.Dictionary.com, the word "paralysis" is defined as a "state of helpless stoppage, inactivity, or inability to act." We often hear it used to describe medical conditions that cause certain people to be unable to sometimes walk, talk, or otherwise move. In New Jersey, it can be best used to describe Governor Corzine's Administration.
That's the word around Trenton and throughout the State: Corzine's leadership is paralyzed. It is helpless, inactive, and unable to act. It shouldn't be, but it is. And it's Jon Corzine's fault.
Why? Because he is our leader, the one most New Jersey voters elected two years ago after unprecedented campaign spending, to provide us all with strong, decisive, and consistent leadership. But that's not what we have gotten and many of us see that first hand every day in Trenton. The voters of New Jersey confirmed that feeling in this week's election, by voting down a very important ballot question pushed by the Governor, one that he spent his own money to push. But Democrats and Republicans voted against it. It shows that his leadership is shot, unfortunately. And we all know it. That's why people have left the Administration in droves, in virtually every executive branch office and agency. Because the writing is on the wall, and they see nothing but an explosion in red tape and abysmal employee morale, many experienced professionals-most of whom are non-unionized-have left and many more are planning to leave. They want out.
Why is that? Because we all expected a lot from Jon Corzine. As an international leader in business he did well for himself, making millions through his knowledge of finance and investments. As a U.S. Senator in Washington, D.C., he was a leading voice for the voiceless, a champion for small businesses, for victims of ethnic cleansing and abuse internationally, and for a clean and just America. What happened to that Jon Corzine, the gutsy, strong, and bold Corzine?
What happened to the man who said he would recruit and appoint the best and brightest to positions in government, and bring in specialists with an experienced hand in running government? What happened to the man who promised he would streamline the way government does business by applying a business model to the State government? What happened to being able to multi-task, focus on multiple important issues at once? What happened to bringing New Jersey's communities together to fix the problems of our State? Well, either his agents and post-election handlers didn't get that memo, or he seriously misjudged what it would take to fix-and run-our government.
What it takes is guts. What it takes is fortitude. And what it takes is bold leadership. Unfortunately, today, Corzine is deficient in all three areas, and we are now halfway through his term. So now is the time to ask, what has he really done in these two years?
- Jon Corzine shut down State government, causing losses to New Jersey's critical tourist industry and casino revenues.
- Jon Corzine caved to the demands of the state worker unions in recent contract negotiations without really cutting the number of state union employees.
- Jon Corzine gave sweetheart government business to Wall Street buddies while seeing a record number of New Jersey families and small businesses leave the State because of high taxes.
- Jon Corzine made nepotism permeate gubernatorial hiring practices by largely hiring Wall Street friends and former U.S. Senate and gubernatorial campaign staff.
- Jon Corzine enhanced the used of "executive privilege" in hiding discussions with union leadership and others while engaging in secretive discussions to develop major public policy proposals.
- Jon Corzine has been extremely slow in making needed appointments to the judiciary, commissions, boards, and other public bodies, resulting in perhaps the slowest appointment pace of any modern Governor.
- Jon Corzine has talked a good game on ethics reform but refused to call for the resignation of indicted Senators Wayne Bryant and Sharpe James, and continues to donate huge sums of money to political bosses in North and South Jersey.
- Jon Corzine has engaged in unprecedented secretive decision-making, without consulting community leaders, elected officials, legislators, government affairs professionals, or government agencies.
- Jon Corzine has offended large segments of the statewide community, including many minorities, by refusing to take leadership on numerous issues ranging from increasing affordable housing, enhancing environmental rights, continuing the monitoring of racial profiling by State Police, and other matters.
Worst of all, however, he has engaged in "Pay-Your-Way", an attempt to constantly use his personal financial resources to impact public policy decisions, hoping to buy his way out of any controversy. This is Corzine's own version of pay-to-play, his way of paying to get his way.
But people are seeing right through it all, and they are tired. Even those of us at the Statehouse are tired of it. And we ask, please end the Pay-Your-Way approach to governing. It's unhealthy, it's unfair, it's undemocratic, and it sets a miserable precedent for the future. But it can stop.
It can stop with gutsy leadership-real leadership that our Governor is capable of and which he has shown in the past. Just to make it a bit easier, here are a few (though not all) brief ideas and the lessons to learn from them. Consider it a 6-Point Gubernatorial PIP, or personal improvement plan.
Lesson 1: SLOW GOVERNMENT IS BAD GOVERNMENT.
Action: Pick up the pace of appointments and get those judicial, board and commission appointments moving right away so that the many people who want to volunteer to help our government feel they are able to participate.
Lesson 2: INEXPERIENCED GOVERNMENT IS BAD GOVERNMENT.
Action: Hire competent, diverse, government-experienced staff, not just your former Wall Street friends, Senate staff and campaign hacks.
Lesson 3: EXCESSIVE GOVERNMENT IS BAD GOVERNMENT.
Action: Apply a real business model-even if it will negatively impact unions- to government decision-making, and eliminate unnecessary red tape so that constituents receive government decisions quicker and you bring real business efficiencies to the State.
Lesson 4: ENGAGED GOVERNMENT IS GOOD GOVERNMENT.
Action: Order your Cabinet to get out to the community more effectively so that the public understands the value of their tax dollars and sees the government working for them.
Lesson 5: GUTSY GOVERNMENT IS GOOD GOVERNMENT.
Action: Take some real strong positions on things, like affordable housing, immigration rights, funding on education, and racial profiling.
Lesson 6: CLEAN GOVERNMENT IS GOOD GOVERNMENT.
Action: End Pay-Your-Way and stop spending your private funds to do the work of government and campaigns, because it looks undemocratic and "dirty".
It's time to end the paralysis in Trenton. In the same way the Governor wants to end medical paralysis with the promise of stem cell research, he can end the political paralysis in Trenton. The Governor, his Cabinet, and staff can do better. But he needs to provide the energy, the challenge, and the engagement. Jon Corzine needs to be a leader again, lest the paralysis permeates the entire State.
The author is a Democratic political appointee who holds a senior position in the Corzine administration.
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Clueless
Corzine and New York's Eliot Spitzer are birds of a feather, that is "New Progressives" who overestimated the liberalism of their states, and failed to realize how byzantine and powerful the state legislatures were.
Lets remember that now not only will Corzine have a feisty and re-energized GOP caucus in both Houses who have, with their work or not, come off winning some ballot victories in terms of his prized resolutions, but he will now have a Senate majority padded by conservative South Jersey Democrats, one of whom (Sweeney) has shown to be ambitious and I wouldn't be surprised at a primary if Corzine runs again.
Luckily for New Jersey I don't think Corzine is running again, which means we most certainly will have a better Governor come 2010.
Scary
The author is a Democratic political appointee who holds a senior position in the Corzine administration.
Thats scary that one of his own people would be writing this. I've said it all along, Corzine is damaged goods. He still can't believe that Goldman Sachs canned him and has been looking for acceptance ever since. He wants to be loved by all and that means giving away the store to every special interest group. He does not have the foritude to stand up and make the tough decisions that a captain has to make to keep the WHOLE ship afloat. I do not believe that he is corrupt but he certainly has a lack of b*lls.
Enough
Folks, you are shredding your credibility by allowing your website to become a message board for right wingers and dissaffected Democrats, like the anonymous poster. Further, you're allowing the Republican spin machine to continue to dominate the site by posting comments like these.
Instead of being a needed news site on what's going on politically in New Jersey, you've become a tool in the partisan wars in NJ. Actually you are worse than that, you are the gasoline that is poured on the flames by anonymous conservatives who simply want to win, whatever the cost.
If you consider yourselves editorialists, then provide balanced commentary by people who are willing to be a part of the process. Right now, you're no better than the National Inquirer.
Shame.
Interesting DCDEM
Instead of laying out an argument defending the current Governor, you attack the messenger. Familar tactic.
Even on the reverse foot, you'll find very few GOPs willing to defend the President's record. Why? because its poor.
The fact of the matter here is, the carpetbagger Governor bought his position. Didn't realize that the Legislative leaders (who gladly relieved him of his money) of his own party, were brass knuckled street fighters, that look after themselves and their allies first, and that NJ is a tough State. The Governor was rolled accordingly. Its ease to see why the man is demoralized.
If your take on its different, then lets hear it. But to rip on site because the political sharks smell blood in the water....well thats what politics is, message and momentum. And the DEMs in power are jockeying for position, if/when the Governor bails.
The article is newsworthy to
The article is newsworthy to the extent that it is written by a Corzine appointee. How many times have we seen the media trot out disaffected Bush appointee or staffer to state their opposition to the administration's policies? As I have stated before, the referenda reflect a growing discontent with the cost of government in this state. To their credit, Dems have made gains in areas of the state that have traditionally voted Republican. And they have done so by running against the largesse that characterized the Whitman administration's fiscally incontinent policies and tacking toward the middle-right on spending reforms during campaign cylcles (in a New York Times election article, no less than Jeff Van Drew described himself as a "conservative democrat").
The more perceptive Dems realize that Corzine is leading them back toward the abyss and that once they lose the albeit marginal credibility they gained on fiscal issues these electoral advances will be negated. Just wait until "Flor-Zine" pushes his monetization plan for the Turnpike. Tolls will have doubled to go along with what should soon be $4 a gallon gas. You'll also have a regiment of angry voters looking for pay back a la Jim Florio. Then again, if you want to gloat about gains in south jersey while Governor giveaway lights his party's funeral pire, be my guest.
As for the "shame" you've visited upon this site and its ownership for their coddling of the vast right-wing conspiratorial agenda, I am in your debt for making me chuckle audibly. On the bright side, your post places you squarely in contention for the 1st Annual Rich Dennison Big Fat Whiney Crybaby award. The winner gets a free makeover by the mortuary staff along with as many Dennison for Senate signs as he/she can stuff into their trunk.
Lesson 7: Never, EVER mistake blue for liberal
New Jersey has never been, and will never be, a state with a liberal electorate. Ignore at your own peril.
If you're listening, the "conservative" bloggers here are doing us a favor by reminding us of this incontrivertible fact.
New Jersey has been described as fiercely moderate. We will always tack back to the center. If Corzine -- or anyone else, for that matter -- tries to veer us too far off in one direction, he will be rejected just as summarily as Schundler or Courter. No matter how much money he spends (see Karcher).
It's not just the money that sunk the stem cell question. Look at the zero cost sales tax question. Voters didn't understand it? Please. Give us just a little shred of credit. The voters were setting off the tilt alarm. Get back to the center. We're not a tax and spend liberal state. We're progressive, but we don't particularly want to be leading the charge, or waving the banner, even if we could afford it.
What do you think all this undercurrent about moving out of the state is all about? It's more than affordability, stupid. New Jersey has always been an expensive place to live, relative to other states.
It's very telling that no one from the administration has chimed in today to dispute John Doe. Does he seem disaffected? Yes -- he seems to perserverate on who has been appointed to what, if at all. But again, does it really matter who is doing the reminding, if the message is worth remembering?
Not 100% Credible.... (and where do we go from here)
Are the editors here aware of who "anonymous" is?
It seems that all they have done is to publish a critique that showed up in their mailbox one day.
Now, if the folks in charge of this site actually have confirmed/verified that the source is legit; that's one thing...but if they haven't, the credibilty of the site is in question.
If the former is true; then we need to have a statement from someone in charge here who has the authority to say that the source is confirmed or the courage to say that they just printed this on spec.
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Now, as to the substance of the letter. About 90% of it rings true...but there are bits in there that stink of hidden agendas. It could easily have been written by a Republican PRopagandist/flak.
Anyone who's read my stuff here and at BlueJersey knows how disappointed I've been with Corzine's failure to lead.
However; the solution is NOT for him to hire more "insiders" who know how to "play the game". That would be just greasing the path to hell.
In a nutshell, Corzine needs to do a 180 and let go of all of his fears/resistance to letting himself become an all out populist reformer that is willing to actually lead a kind of revolution in the state of NJ.
The people of New Jersey would back him up 100% if/when they truly believe that he's on their side.....not the side of the legally corrupt and ethically foul political establishment.
Clearly, the "long knives" are now out in the open for Corzine.
Republicans want him to fail and the Democratric machine pols, evidently, want him to fail (as they continue to "roll" him for the cash) because he's still, essentially, not one of them.
So, Governor Corzine, I suggest you turn a new leaf; but not in the direction of "playing ball" with the bosses in a more skillful/aggressive manner as the anonymous letter implies.
There are scores of progressive policy groups that can provide you with the chapter and verse; but the gist of it is that you need to declare war on the status quo and to declare war on the political and economic establishment of this state that is screwing the taxpayers and the consumers left and right....and mostly in a LEGAL manner!!!
You ran as a reformer who was going to clean up the filth; why not GO FOR IT!!!
If you truly lead; the people of this state will follow by becoming leaders themselves. That's what real leadership is; empowering others to be ACTIVE and to take back the power that has been stolen from them by the corrupt ruthless bastards (Republican AND Democratic) that are currently running New Jersey into the ground.
There's still time.
PS to commonsensenj:
Cleaning up the systemic corruption is neither a liberal nor a conservative partisan action; it's simply the right thing to do. The people of New Jersey are starving for a serious credible radical movement to, for one and for all, get the corruption out of our state.
It won't happen overninght; but I bet that the "corruption tax" is easily 20% of every dime spent by NJ governments across the board. And it's not just money; the health safety and quality of life of all of us are negatively impacted by the fallout from corruption of the legal and ilegal kind.
From Frederick Douglass
Just my guess....
but the Governor's spokesman (Gillfillian) announces he's leaving to work for HRC in Iowa, and this anonymous letter appears. Some timing eh?
I don't know, but looking between the lines of the post, it looks like some tough love advice in there for the Guv to me. Maybe he'll wake up, and see it.
Too Smart To Listen?
Corzine listens , but he has a real problem comprehending what is important.
His big problem is that he hears more B.S. in one week than most of us hear in a lifetime. He has never developed the capability to sift through and see what is important and what is not. He has also refused to recognize this weakness within himself. That is why he has never hired savvy political advisors.
He is " business" smart, he is not " political" smart.
The Katz problem and his whole relationship with those CWA leadership losers is a perfect example. Do you think Codey or Sweeney would have fell into that mess?
Corzine can save the next two years by a simple self examination. His strengths are many . He must work on his weaknesses.
His biggest weakness is undersatnding politics in New jersey so he must hire the best available political person and give him/her the power to tell the emperor that he has no clothes on .
There are some insider names that can help him get his agenda moving forward.
Corzine has to understand that as much as he hates the reality of " politics" at every turn , IT IS THE REALITY!
Let us hope he has learned some lessons.
Agree with Nick here
I'd agree with Nick here.
The site does need to indicate if this is legit, and the author signed off on the post, and requested to remain anonymous.
I can respect that, as the Governor, regardless of what I think of him, can still raise barrels of money for the DEM party, and money men always command respect in the Party hierarchy. If the name is revealed, this posters name could be mud amongst Democrats, just because he stated his honest opinion. We all know how those things work.
If its just GOP PR trick (or some South Jersey DEM hi-jinks), and the post came in as that, anonymous, without a legitimate name or confirmation of who wrote it. Well thats a whole different story. As Senator Lautenberg would say....sinister, to say the least.
The site ought to give us a bit more on the origins of the letter. Maybe its Leslie Deveraux's revenge? (just goofing..)
In response
The poster has the right to air his grievances but he goes beyond that to make specific, serious allegations. There's nothing to back this up nor is there space in the comments for a response. That's not reporting or editorializing. That's innuendo. As I write this, I see a column by Steve Lonegan. The website includes this in a section with other columns, many written by those who have partisan positions that are known to all. That's where this belongs, for starters.
Also, it's one thing when members of the public comments on this board anonymously. But to allow a Democrat in the administration to make comments like these (if that's what he/she is) anonymously, is reckless.
This web site has always
This web site has always been partisan.
We learned a lot about Corzine when he had to dish out $60M of his money to win a US Senate Seat, an election he barely won. So much for paying your dues and earning your way to the top. So how can anyone be surprised at his appointees? Our former AG had baggage written all over her. It was only a matter of time before she got in trouble again with the law.
I've learned from personal experience that NJ government and friends have a habit of attacking the messenger if anyone objects to anything, even if he/she has a boat load of evidence to support his/her assertions. Our state government is extremely defensive.
Accurate. To the point. Credible.
How can anyone argue that the Corzine Administration has been anything less than a dud?
Where are the accomplishments? They simply don't exist. Why is it that the content of the author's opinions and well constrcuted arguments are somehow ignored because he won't reveal his identity?
In other words, hopless liberals like Lento rant and rave about legitimacy, but can't answer the author's challenges and accurate assessments of an administration gone astray!
The Corzine Administration is a pathetic collection of insider developer deals like the Newark Arena, Xanadu and EnCap. It's about girlfriends who receive millions in gifts, an increase in the Sales Tax and a failed rebate program designed to get legislators re-elected, not deliver on the promise of property tax relief.
Nearly 75,000 people have left the state and voters rejected a phony rebate ballot question along with a fraudulent stem cell boondoggle.
The only person with the stones to address the soaring debt issue is Mayor Steve Lonegan who seems to be much more in tune with the voter than the hysterical left of Corzine or the pathetic center of country club Republicans like Leonard Lance and Alex DeCroce.
Jon Corzine is not only vulnerable in a general election, he's vulnerable in a Democratic Primary! The party is adrift and this cycle was slippage for Democrats in places like Bergen where inroads were clearly negated, especially in South Bergen.
Can any of the posting liberals address the CONTENT of this well written opinion?
Of course not. That would take a degree of thought.
If Mr/Ms Anonymous is For Real...
....(s)he should have the courage to go public.
And (s)he should release supporting documents to the real press at a real press conference.
This kind of pointed polemic smacks of ulterior motives and self serving agendas.
If things with the governor are that bad then it's your duty to resign and go public.
GuardRail Jonnie's Paralysis
First and last time I will say this "WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER 6 POINT PLAN FRON JONNIE” the current one is a joke and like his administration it is BORING and WORTHLESS. Send the OLD MESSENGER of the plan back to retirement in case you don't know who, Gary “I REPORT TO NO ONE” Rose, along with the other losers of his “Office of Non-Economic Growth”.
I should have realized that the writer was one of “Guardrail Jonnie’s” soldiers especially after reading the pitiful excuse of trying to say he did ANYTHING worthwhile when he was Senator.
This guy made one deal in his 25 years that made him rich so please don’t tell me he is the savior of New Jersey or some great international anything except a big bag of wind that nobody with any brains is listening to before, now or in the future. The accomplishments that the writer suggests are “Guardrail Jonnie’s” strength’s are the same OLD TIRED DEMOCROOK useless words that are not believable to anyone with any brains, which probably eliminates most of his athletic supporters.
“What happened to that Jon Corzine, the gutsy, strong, and bold Corzine?” - you have to be joking with that statement, this guy was never any of those things and has been useless in both his government representations.
I could talk for hours about this loser but I will leave you with one line I remember and you will remember the source “John will let the people of New Jersey down”.
“Guardrail Jonnie” needs to do my 6 point plan that is good for New Jersey that doesn’t need legislative or people approval just like his method of doing business in the state.
1. RESIGN
2. LEAVE NEW JERSEY
3. GO 90 MPH ON THE NEW JERSEY TURNPIKE
4. GO BACK TO ILLINOIS WITH HIS MOTHER
5. GO TO NEW YORK WITH HIS SOCIALIST FRIEND CLINTON
6. MOVE TO PENNSYLAVNNIA WITH CARLA
The author of this response is a poor long suffering New Jersey resident who is tired of coming out people and liars with money.
Because we all expected a lot from Jon Corzine
Says it all.
I was never crazy about McGreevey, but he wasn't Schundler and that was enough.
Corzine seemed like he'd bring fiscal conservatism and social progressivism in a self-financed package. What's not to like?
Seems like only priority now is to get Hillary elected President. We deserve more from a Governor.
From Frederick Douglass If
From Frederick Douglass
I'm still waiting....
...for a definitive declaration from the editor of this site that the author of this manifesto is legitimately who they claim he claims to be. Something as simple as, "We have checked out the source, and s(he) is who/what they claim to be. We have complied with their request to be anonymous, in order to be able to publish their revelations/opinions." So far, I see zero real press coverage of this. I wonder why? If the author is for real; I suggest s(he) try to get a real journalistic outlet to publish their "story". Or better yet, s(he) should have the courage to go public all together. If the situation is as horrid as s(he) claims; then resignation and blowing the whistle in public is in order. Meanwhile, the silence is deafening.
From Frederick Douglass
Nick
The statement posted at the end of the article
The author is a Democratic political appointee who holds a senior position in the Corzine administration.
Should tell you that the authors identity was checked. Quit grasping for straws.
Expected a lot?
The state of New Jersey is getting exactly what we should have expected from John Corzine. Spend, spend, spend! He showed that by what he spent to get elected in the first place.
"The only man who never makes a mistake is the man who never does anything."
--Theodore Roosevelt--
His biggest weakness is
His biggest weakness is undersatnding politics in New oyun jersey so he must hire the best available political person and give him/her the power to tell the emperor that he has no clothes on .
There are some insider oyunlar names that can help him get his agenda moving forward.
OrDi
I was never crazy about McGreevey, but he wasn't Schundler and that was enough.
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سمايلات متحركه للمسن و رموز للمسن ~ ابتسامات و وجوه تعبيريه للماسنجر
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