September 18, 2007 - 8:42pm
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Experts say Romney can't win New Jersey

There may have been a time when Mitt Romney would have appealed to New Jersey voters, even potentially carrying the state against a Democrat in the presidential election.

Not any more, says a group of academics who monitor New Jersey campaigns.

While the pundits say Rudy Giuliani has a good chance to carry New Jersey – two independent polls have him leading all of the Democratic contenders -- they say that Romney can't win a state that has gone Democratic in the last four presidential elections.

Romney was, by most accounts, a socially moderate governor of Massachusetts. He was pro-choice, pro-stem cell research and touted a strong record in support of gay rights. But during the latter part of his term, perhaps when his mind started to wander to the White House, those stances changed. And since his campaign began, he’s moved even further to the right, cooling off on gay rights issues, declaring his support for overturning Roe v. Wade, joining the NRA and opposing the types of stem cell research that he once championed.

“I think he'd be a very strong candidate in New Jersey, and he’s showed that in Massachusetts,” said Republican Assembly candidate Jay Webber, who sits on Romney’s recently created New Jersey Steering Committee. “This is a Republican governor of a very blue state, and he demonstrated an ability to communicate with voters in the northeast and advance Republican principles while winning elections in a though environment. There’s no reason to think he can't do that in New Jersey.”

It’s relatively common for blue states to elect Republican governors and vice-versa, while continuing to vote for a president along traditional ideological lines. But Romney’s shift to the right makes it difficult to endear him to voters in a state that hasn't cast its electoral votes for a Republican presidential candidate since George H. W. Bush in 1988.

“It’s hard to know how his candidacy will play out, but certainly his move to go back to a more conservative stance does not bode well for taking New Jersey,” said Ingrid Reed, a political analyst at the Eagleton Institute of Politics at Rutgers University.

David Rebovich, Managing Director of the Rider University Institute for New Jersey Politics, agreed.

"He has really separated himself from what people would call the centrist views of some Republicans, and that’s the only way you're going to have a chance to win in New Jersey,” said Rebovich. “Realistically speaking, Giuliani is the only Republican who would have a chance of winning in New Jersey.”

Some aspects of Romney’s background may appeal to New Jersey voters. He’s been lauded as an efficient corporate manager, most notably credited for cleaning up the Salt Lake Olympic Committee, pulling the organization out of debt and running an ultimately profitable event. And while he was Governor of Massachusetts, he instituted a program in which just about all of the state’s residents were required to be on some form of health insurance.

But that’s not likely to carry much weight in a campaign when the Democrat -- be it Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, John Edwards or someone else -- will remind the electorate time and time again of Romney’s conservative campaign positions.

“He’s perceived as having moved to the right for the primary season, and if it were a general election match up, you can be sure his primary opponent will remind voters of those shifts,” said Tim Vercellotti, the Eagleton Institute’s Director of Polling.

Drew University Political Science Professor Joe Romance said that Romney has, perhaps wisely, moved to the right of Giuliani on social issues because he can't trump him on national security. That way he can appeal to voters in more conservative early primary states.

But Romance said that Romney is not likely to sell many New Jersey voters on his anti-abortion, anti-stem cell and anti-gun control credentials.

“He moved so hard that it looks like he’s in danger of being called a waffler and it’s going to be hard for him to run back to the center in New Jersey,” said Romance.

Michael Riccards, Executive Director of the Hall Institute of Public Policy and former President of Fitchburg State College in Massachusetts, knew Romney when he ran for the U.S. Senate against Ted Kennedy in 1994.

While Riccards acknowledged that Romney would have a better shot in New Jersey if he held onto his more moderate views, the state’s recent demographic shifts make it difficult for any national Republican other than Giuliani to make any headway here.

“He would have had a better chance, but I think New Jersey has pretty much tipped to being a blue state because large numbers of people have moved from New York City into New Jersey in the last ten years,” said Riccards.

Quinnipiac University pollster Clay Richards agreed that, even if Romney retained his moderate positions, he'd still have an uphill battle in New Jersey.

While Giuliani has been a familiar face to New Jerseyans since becoming mayor of New York City in 1994, even he would struggle to gain traction here had it not been for his association with the 9/11 terror attacks.

“Just being the mayor next door wouldn’t be enough without 9/11,” said Richards.

But State Sen. Joseph Kyrillos, who’s leading the charge for Romney in New Jersey as chair of his steering committee, said that Romney has not yet had the chance to build his name recognition with New Jersey voters.

In Romney, Kyrillos sees a special candidate who voters will warm to as they get to know him. While Kyrillos acknowledged that Romney’s tone had changed on social issues, he downplayed their importance in the race.

“It’s just like academics to forecast who can win an election fourteen months before it takes place, and before the dynamics are set,” said Kyrillos. “I think that there are other big issues for the country: the global war on terror, dealing with the economic threat of competition from Asia and other places, and dealing with our economic and budget problems here at home. They make him especially suited to be a great president, and time will tell.”

MATT FRIEDMAN is a PolitickerNJ.com Reporter and can be reached via email at matt@politicsnj.com.

Comments

Stayin the Course


I don't understand why Romney has made these radical changes. He was a sound governor and has a good record to run on. Rudy's approach of consistency on most issues seems to have served him better.

09/19/07 3:01 am

Despite what current polls might imply...


Rudy will not win NJ if he is the nominee either.

Also, Romney is - as conservatives are - pro-life (not anti-abortion), his stance on stem cells is only against embryonic stem cells (not adult or others), and he is pro-liberty (not anti-gun).

09/19/07 7:51 am

experts?


we needed experts to tell us that Romney can't win NJ?

09/19/07 8:20 am

These experts know nothing


Those who can't do, teach. These people know less about politics than your average voter.

09/19/07 8:30 am

Are these the same NJ


Are these the same NJ experts who said Gore would be President?

09/19/07 8:57 am

This will be a tight race


between Giuliani and Thompson by the NJ primary. But nationwide Thompson wins hands-down with Giuliani in at a weak second. In the general, NJ will be a tough nut for any Republican candidate. Fred08 - Contribute Now

09/19/07 9:28 am

Rudy Wins NJ Primary Running Away


It will not be close in any way, shape, or form between Rudy or any other Republican in the Primary. Rudy will win with anywhere between 50 to 60 percentage points which will be significant since the New Jersey Primary will actually matter for a change.

While Sen. Thompson makes the race tighter on a nationwide scale, I am confident that Rudy's experience and track record running the biggest, most important city in the world will earn him the nomination.

Rudy is hands down more qualified to be President than any other candidate, Republican or Democrat.

"The pacifist is as surely a traitor to his country and to humanity as is the most brutal wrongdoer." -Theodore Roosevelt

09/19/07 12:11 pm

I couldn't have said it better myself Dino


Rudy is not only a great leader he is a great campaigner as well. He is the only Republican that will excite our coalition with conservative Independents and Democrats.

09/19/07 12:55 pm

I disagree with you both


When Rudy's positions as pro-abortion, pro-gay, and anti-gun become widely known throughout the nation his support will dwindle. I went across the river and worked for Rudy in '93 and even attended his inaugural. I wish that today he would be New York's US Senator. His brand of Republican politics sell well in NY and he is one of the few electable Republicans in that state. But he is extremely liberal to most of the country. If he did get the GOP nomination, the nation (except the coasts) will view him as the Republican version of Hillary and just sit on their collective hands.

09/19/07 1:14 pm

Fred cant win


Lee, you're assuming that there are only hardcore conservatives and hardcore liberals. most people are independents, and Rudy can beat hillary with the independents. You and I may like Fred, but he scares the hell out of the independent voters, and with Bush unpopular among Dems, Independents AND some Republicans, we can't run another Bush.

09/19/07 6:54 pm

Blah! Blah! Blah!


Giuliani is a RINO, was in the beginning and will be in the end and still a RINO!!!!!!!!

And for AH - "Romney is - as conservatives are - pro-life (not anti-abortion)"    !!!! BULL !!!!

A true Republican Conservative who is Pro Life is anti-abortion they are one in the same and not separable.

 

“I’m With Fred”

09/20/07 12:38 am

No, Rinos stab fellow


No, Rinos stab fellow republicans in the back like Doug Forrester did throughout his 2005 race and after he lost. Rudy has helped campaign for thousands of Republicans throughout the entire country. Bottom line madmax- if Rudy is on the top of the ticket he can win NJ and help NJ republicans by doing strong with independents. If Fred is on the top of the ticket, he will get killed and so will the rest of our candidates. Trust me, saluting Chancellor Hillary is no moral victory.

09/20/07 3:27 am

njdems are corrupt


Sorry but winning NJ means losing the rest and thank you for the nice rebuttal I respect that.

                                   

 

 

                                          "I'm With Fred"

09/24/07 9:56 pm