Suddenly, the world is a different place.

Time to get on the bus.

just do the campaign and get all crazy in the mist when your candidate wins... the WHOLE THING NOT JUST A POLL DU JOUR OR A PRIMARY... till then, go do some campaigning and earn the bragging rights and stop this talk about the bus and short bus and who is on it or off it or under it. And for the record Rick, nine points down is still nine points down. Jumping up and down like you just won seems a little odd at this point.

I don't think anybody thought Mayor Lonegan was going to continue polling at 19%. Even a pathetic loser like John Ginty got 25% of the vote against Tom Kean Jr. in the '06 US Senate Primary.

Not only will Christie still win the primary with 50+ percent of the vote, he'll probably end up winning by about a 60/40 margin.

"My earlier views of the unsoundness of the Christian scheme of salvation and the human origin of the scriptures, have become clearer and stronger with advancing years and I see no reason for thinking I shall ever change them."- Abraham Lincoln

I called it on April 10th on the most read political blog in the State, Conservatives with Attitude!:

Steve Lonegan has articulated not only his positions on the issues, but solutions on them as well. He doesn’t talk in soundbites about how government is to big, we spend to much, and taxes are to high like his opponent does.

The numbers are starting to middle out and Lonegan continues to gain traction. By May, this race will be 6%-9% difference between Christie and Lonegan. After the debates, this race will be Lonegan’s to lose.

You have very short memories. Torricelli's eminent loss cause the Democrat Bosses to take him out behind the woodshed and made him an offer he could not refuse. He dropped out and they exhumed the body of Lautenburg to replace him on the ballot, with the blessing of the dirtbag thugs in black robes who were actually Whitman appointees. Now they are probably much worse.

The NJ Extreme Court will once again will prevail on changing, bending, wharping, and disregarding the laws of New Jersey not enforcing them. Paul Mulshine of the Star-Ledger once referred to their legal precedent for their rulings as "Because I said so."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."   Thomas Jefferson

You called that Lonegan would still be losing at this point in the race?

First off, Lonegan is still losing by a landslide and second, it is a poll conducted among likely voters which typically shows a tighter result than those conducted among registered voters.

I've never seen people so happy to be losers before in my life.

"My earlier views of the unsoundness of the Christian scheme of salvation and the human origin of the scriptures, have become clearer and stronger with advancing years and I see no reason for thinking I shall ever change them."- Abraham Lincoln

Seth Grossman, www.libertyandprosperity.org

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning". Sir Winston Churchill         (1874-1965), Speech made in November, 1942 while Prime Minister of Great Britain during World War II.

For Karnac who claimed that it would be single digits a month ago, congrats. But as Christie inches towards the magical 50% that the Lonegan crowd has crowed about, Lonegan still can't get past Corzine. And Rick - if you are driving the bus as well as you are running the campaign, folks better wear their seatbelts because you will inevitably crash the bus, Gilligan. Enjoy the ride. PS - I am not worried. When Chris starts spending his money, Shaftan will lose it.

Lonegan's down to single digits and climbing and we don't know the margin of error.

I think it's interesting that in past polls of registered voters, Christie's lead was huge, but in this poll of likely voters, the gap has narrowed significantly. I think it shows that Lonegan's supporters are "all in" while Christie's are hedging their bets and not really all that into him.

Should be an interesting  7 weeks, especially when the debates take palce!

"We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work!"
- FDR's Treasure Secretary, Henry Morgenthau, in 1939, on 8 years of New Deal spending as an attempt to end the Great Depression.

I love the fact that in the poll conducted for the National Review, Levine was doing better than Lonegan against Corzine - time to jump on the bus and see if you can sink that campaign, too, Gilligan.

Only interesting thing that will happen over the next 7 weeks is watching what new LOWS in campaigning..lying...distorting and total lack of morals Shaftan will bring the Lonegan campaign to.

You called that Lonegan would still be losing at this point in the race?

Yea, that's right Dino, my boy.

Considering that every NJ GOP County organization and ass kissing establishment hack has been backing Christie since LAST YEAR, and Christie benefited from his "supposed" untouchable ethical persona; that he is NOT winning with over 65% among Republicans is THE PROBLEM at this time, not that Lonegan is still losing by 9%.

I believe certain people who are consistantly attacked on this site stated that Lonegan would be wihin single digits by May 1.  Looks like he was wrong, he is within single digits LONG BEFORE May 1.

I believe the wheels are coming off the Christie bus.

Seth Grossman, www.libertyandprosperity.org

Was it legal for Chris Christie to directly or (or indirectly through the Assembly Republican Victory Commiteee) spend money and give his campaign a jump start while he was still in office as U.S. Attorney? If U.S. Attorneys were legally permitted to campaign for political office while still having law enforcement power, wouldn't they be tempted to do all sorts of bad things like indict or not indict people, offer deferred prosecution deals, etc. or award million dollar no-bid monitor contracts with political consideratios in mind? Shouldn't ELEC be taking a very close look into all the Christie campaign stuff that was going on before Christie resigned as U.S. Attorney in November, 2008? But ELEC is small town stuff. If it's Corzine vs. Christie on June 3, won't Corzine's new BFF Barak Obama use the FBI to dig into all this?  Didn't Obama do this stuff all the time in Illinois to destroy his political opponents and move ahead in politics so quickly?  I think our great NJ Republican leaders snookered Christie into getting into this race to stop Lonegan--just like they snookered Doug Forrester into ruining his life for them. Maybe it's time for both Chris Christie and brother Todd to carefully think about whether our great NJ Republican leaders are putting them both at risk to hang on to their diminishing power and influence.

Debates will do nothing for Lonegan. The only people watching will be the same loyalists who will claim their candidated rocked. The average person will not be watching these debates.

Rick,

I know the more you pump your candidates, the more $$$ you make in consulting fees. I suppose your next mailer will be something akin to the fact that "Lonegan is gaining steam." That should raise a few dollars and get you a hefty consulting fee. Must be a nice business. Find some radical nutjub who is too stupid to realize he can't win. Convince him with your "expertise" that he can win. Raise a ton of money, take your consulting fee. And when he loses, blame the establishment and the media. Cha ching!

As for Michael Illions, I find it hysterical that the same people who complain about liberal hollywood stars expressing their opinions tell them that they should "shut up and sing." Yet those same people take this lunatic seriously. Says a lot about why your movement will remain in the minority.

You must have your legal license via mail order or you are independantly wealthy. Because you don't seem to care about making unfounded, baseless allegations against people. My guess is, when the Christie brothers weigh their success and their experience vs a lonely legal hack who broadcasts his "radio show" from a trailer....well they won't value your opinion very much. Maybe you should wonder whether drinking the Shaftan Kool-Aid will cause you to get disciplined by the NJ Bar.

There's nothing that I would like more than for Corzine to have to face a fringe-right candidate like Lonegan in the general, but with the organizational line in Christie's favor, that almost certainly won't happen.

I would caution Republicans against nominating someone who is perhaps the most controversial U.S. Attorney in modern American history as their candidate, but I'd rather this campaign emphasize Corzine's positives rather than be negative towards Christie.

In Corzine's tenure, money has finally been put into the pension system, something past governors haven't done; the state's bond rating has increased due to Corzine's fiscal responsibility and paying down of debt; landmark global warming legislation has been passed that spurs industry toward green technology and the transition to green jobs; the most wide-reaching ethics reform in decades has been pushed and passed by Corzine; the state budget has been cut by billions two years running; thousands of state jobs have been cut and/or lowered because of "forced" retirements; real health care reform, including expanding N.J's Family Care, has begun in earnest; and long-term initiatives to cut property taxes, including a 4% township cap, has also begun.

Corzine needs another term to finish the good work that the started, and he needs to finetune his political acumen so that we aren't distracted by less-than-smart moves such as the Katz issue and nominating Farber for AG. By any objective standard, Corzine has been the most responsible and responsive governor we've had in decades and should absolutely be reelected.

...he's a complete hypocrite.

His only rationale for running is that he was this hotshot prosecutor who cleaned up corruption in NJ.

The truth is that Christie was/is himself a partisan hack who used, and benefitted from, the legalized bribery of the pay to play system.

Blue Jersey's Clammyc did a wonderful fact based expose' on Christie that connects some of the dots already on public record.

http://www.bluejersey.net/showDiary.do?diaryId=11154#43085

Here's a brief snip from that diary...

>>>>"And in the case of Todd Christie - a man who donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to the NJ and national republican parties - "coincidentally" around the time that his brother was told he would not be named US Attorney but then somehow his brother was named US Attorney, it smells even worse.  We have the following:

    * Chris Christie told he would not be named US Attorney, despite lobbying hard for the position;
    * Todd and Chris Christie raise and donate hundreds of thousands of dollars to the national and NJ republican parties;
    * Chris Christie named US Attorney;
    * Todd and Chris Christie donate hundreds of thousands more to republican party;
    * Todd Christie found by SEC to have made 1,600 illegal trades, ripping off taxpayers by close to $1.5 million, while earning a similar amount;
    * Todd Christie is not indicted while pretty much everyone else around him that was involved (even remotely) was indicted;
    * Chris Christie ends up on the list of US Attorneys to be fired;
    * Chris Christie issues bogus subpoenas as part of an "investigation" into Senator Menendez a couple of months before the 2006 Senate race;
    * Chris Christie finds himself off of the list of US Attorneys to be fired shortly after the 2006 Senate race."<<<<

Go read the whole article and if you're a Christie supporter, weep.

Unlike Steve Lonegan, Corzine has what it will take to blow the whistle on CorruptChrisChriste so that the whole state can hear it loud and clear! 

Jon Corzine is far from perfect.  I have often criticized him myself; but compared to Chris Christie, Corzine is an angel.

Given the economy, Corzine's numbers are understandable, but when people see Christie in the light of some bright sunshine....Corzine will be given four more years.

According to his website (lonegan.com), "Steve was a successful small business owner . . . [and] Steve built and managed retail, custom homebuilding and manufacturing businesses that employed dozens of workers" before he became Mayor of Bogota in 1995.

Does anybody know the names of those businesses, state of operation, whether public or private, etc., for any of these endeavors? I am trying to figure out what Steve Lonegan did for a living from approximately 1975 to 1995. I can not find the information anywhere.

Anybody know?

MartinOne,

I do not support Christie but saying he was the "most controversial U.S. Attorney in modern American history as their candidate" is a little ridiculous and the same kind of rhetoric I criticize Lonegan for using.

Don't stoop to that level.

We can make innuendo and play six degrees of seperation with just about any candidate for public office and make them look bad. That is the nature of being in public life. However, stooping to that low level does nothing to foster good public policy.

For BergenRuiz:

According to his Bogota Ethics disclosure forms:

He had a business called something like KitchenConcepts (I probably have the name wrong). As of two-years ago they still had an office in a house in Maywood just south of either Route 4 or Route 80.

Around 2004 or so, I think he was a consultant for the East Rutherford municipal (or some other town around there where Shaftan has connections to Democratic politicians). As a consultant there I think his job was too fire a dozen or so patronage employees of the previous Democratic mayor so the new Democratic mayor could hire his own patronage employees.

He was the town administrator in Bergenfield in 2006 (I think). Around the same time that Ferriero and Oury may have been "doing business" in Bergenfield for their possible Coniglio type deal with a shell consulting company. Not that I know of any direct or indirect connection between Ferriero and Lonegan.

He owns the Longview garden apartments on East Main Street in Bogota. He owns or owned another garden apartment building in Teaneck not too far from Loretta Weinberg's office there.

I think Lonegan's father (who is long deceased) had some kind of business where he bought homes or buildings fixed them up and resold. I think Lonegan was doing the same sort of thing. Lonegan may have been interested in tax foreclosure properties, which he would have quick (though publicly available access to information about).

I think (based on something I read in the news a few years ago) he may have been a consultant for some Meadowlands developer. I think he may have owned or considered buying a bowling alley in the East Rutherford area.

All in all, a lot of "thinking" that I think is more than "speculation" but it is a start and you can try to dig up the hard facts on your own.

The quote was one month from the March 4 poll. Good try though. And I see our resident creampuff is back. Welcome aboard Delusional One. How is tea cup doing Alice? Everyone in Wonderland doing ok? Time to get a new picture. With Summer coming, a nice sundress is more appropriate than a turtleneck. Guess that means you get to go shop for accessories.

Your own bluejersey labeled Christie "the most ethical" US Attorney.

All the Lonegan nay sayers and Monday morning quarterbacks just fell out of their seats as Lonegan now is within the statistical margin of error because he has brought political clarity to the GOP Primary. Christie stands for nothing. All of his crime fighting ads are meaningless. His inability to answers Michael Aron's questions were pathetic and Lonegan is now positioned brilliantly to overcome Christie at the time of the crucial debates that registered Republicans will no doubt tune in. The strategy of ignoring Lonegan and bashing conservatives has failed miserably. Now the press will redirect it's efforts on Lonegan and the new story will be how did Chris Christie blow a 30-point lead in polls? I guess all those "line" endorsements really matter! I guess collecting 11,000 signatures doesn't matter! I guess having over 7,000 donors doesn't matter. Yes, Chris Christie is running the same failed strategy of Forrester, Whitman, Kean, DeFrancesco, Franks, Giuliani and McCain. We're going to have a conservative run and beat Jon Corzine and his name is Steve Lonegan. Bye bye Lonegan haters! Vote Column "A" - All the way!

Calm down Cowboy...,.put down the spiked Shaftan Kool Aid. After sending out nothing but negatives and Christie yet to fire back you still trail by nine. And if you think anyone other than us is going to watch those debates than I have a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn. And be sure to save your appetite for the big Joe the Plumber event. Lonegan/Shaftan = no morals, no disclosure, no shot at winning

That's conservative Mayor Steve Lonegan passing fatso and winning the primary.

The dye has been cast and The Michelin Man is toast.

Chris Christie wishes he had Shaftan on his team!

Vote Column "A" - All the way!

Let's make a wager if you are so confident in Gilligan Shaftan and the SS Minnow-Lonegan. He wins, I never post on here again. Christie wins, YOU never post on here again. I will honor the deal despite my hatred for Delusional One. You man enough?

Oc what are you going to do on June 3rd ? Rally around the winner ?

If not you might just as well quit posting now

1) When did he swim across the Rio Grande ?

2 ) why did he not learn to spell in English ?

3) why can't he make a profit on a simple Golf outing ?

4) why is he scared to run for real political office ?

Did he pass out or finally go to work?

"Did he pass out or finally go to work?"

Interesting with all that's going on someone still has nothing better to think about than what I may be doing.

I didn't know I mattered so much to this person. They must have a hard on for me.

“If you’re unwilling to compete for these votes, and if you’re unable to win these votes, then you’ve got to wonder if you belong on the ballot at all." -- Chris Christie on Steve Lonegan's decision not to attend the Bergen County Republican c

As I predicted, nothing to say.

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And I quote... >>>"Christie stands for nothing. All of his crime fighting ads are meaningless. His inability to answers Michael Aron's questions were pathetic................ "<<<

From Frederick Douglass

If there is no struggle there is no progress......Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will.

I think it is a good wager, I am that confident that my guy will win. Put up or shut up. Demsdont has already indicated that he will not supoort the Republican nominee if it is Christie. So we might as well get his commitment that he will never post again now rather than hear the endless catcall fromt he backbench.

When the final retort is, "you wanna bet?"

It's the ultimate compliment that you put your adversary down with nothing left to say when all he's said has proven to be untrue by valid polling results!

His whole argument is that Lonegan is unelectable when in fact Lonegan is surging with GOP voters and Christie is stuck at 46%.

More importantly, Lonegan is in a dead heat with Corzine as we speak, so the whole unelectable argument is just rantings from a jerk who knows less than a three-year old about campaigns, politics and this primary!

Yeah, I wanna bet! How about $5,000? That would be your life savings!

Fool.

Go away.

You've been exposed for the idiot you are...

Now go back to licking envelopes at the Christie headquarters...

Vote Column "A"- All the way!

Surging? he can't even get past Corzine. Give me a break. But apparently you are not man enough to take the bet. I hope you have your ball packed and ready to go home. And $5000? Wow - good comeback. What is next? Going to callme poo-poo face? How doo-doo head? You are a joke. But if you are man enough to put up 5k, I am. Cashiers checks so I know you won't go running away when you lose in June. You will be able to take your ball, but I will have your money.

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Are you guys serious? If you are I believe betting is not appropriate, or even legal, on this website.

However I suggest simply a chellenge. The loser agrees to donate 5000 to a political committee or charity designated by the winner. Some of us "regulars" on this site will act as monitors.

Agreed?

You vulgar little maggot.

You are a canker. A sore that won't go away. I would rather kiss a slug than be seen with you. You're a putrescent mass, a walking vomit. You are a spineless little worm deserving nothing but the profoundest contempt. You are a jerk, a cad, a weasel. Your life is a monument to stupidity. You are a stench, a revulsion, a big suck on a sour lemon.

You are a bleating foal, a curdled staggering mutant dwarf smeared richly with the effluvia and offal accompanying your alleged birth into this world. An insensate, blinking calf, meaningful to nobody, abandoned by the puke-drooling, giggling beast who sired you and then killed himself in recognition of what he had done. Your daddy was a bastard, your mamma was a whore, and you wouldn't be here if the rubber hadn't tore. I will never get over the embarrassment of belonging to the same species as you. You are a monster, an ogre, a malformity. I barf at the very thought of you.

You have all the appeal of a booger. Lepers avoid you. You are vile, worthless, less than nothing. You are a weed, a fungus, the dregs of this earth. And did I mention you smell?

You snail-skulled little rabbit. Would that a hawk pick you up, drive its beak into your brain, and upon finding it rancid set you loose to fly briefly before spattering the ocean rocks with the frothy pink shame of your ignoble blood.

May you choke on the queasy, convulsing nausea of your own trite, foolish beliefs. You are weary, stale, flat and unprofitable. You are grimy, squalid, nasty and profane. You are foul and disgusting. You're a fool, an ignoramus. Monkeys look down on you. Sheep won't have sex with you––only trash such as yourself.

You are unreservedly pathetic, starved for attention, and lost in a land that reality forgot.
And what meaning do you expect your delusionally self-important statements of unknowing, inexperienced opinion to have with us? What fantasy do you hold that you would believe that your tiny-fisted tantrums would have more weight than that of a leprous desert rat, spinning rabidly in a circle, waiting for the bite of the snake?

You are a waste of flesh. You have no rhythm. You are ridiculous and obnoxious. You are the moral equivalent of a leech. You are a living emptiness, a meaningless void. You are sour and senile. You are a disease, you puerile, one-handed, slack-jawed, drooling, meatslapper. On a good day you're a half-wit. You remind me of drool.

You are deficient in all that lends character. You have the personality of a used condom. You are dank and filthy. You are asinine and benighted. You are the source of all unpleasantness. You spread misery and sorrow wherever you go. You smarmy lagerlout git. You bloody woofter sod. Bugger off, pillock. You grotty wanking oik artless base-court apple-john. You clouted boggish foot-licking twit. You dankish clack-dish plonker. You gormless crook-pated tosser. You churlish boil-brained clotpole ponce. You cockered bum-bailey poofter. You craven dewberry pisshead cockup pratting naff. You gob-kissing gleeking flap-mouthed coxcomb. You dread-bolted fobbing beef-witted clapper-clawed flirt-gill.

You are a fiend and a coward, and you have toe jam. You are degenerate, noxious and depraved. I feel debased just for knowing you exist. I despise everything about you, and I wish you would go away forever.

I cannot believe how incredibly stupid you are. I mean rock-hard stupid. Dehydrated-rock-hard stupid. Stupid, so stupid it goes way beyond the stupid we know into a whole different dimension of stupid. You are trans-stupid stupid. Meta-stupid. Stupid collapsed on itself so far that even the neutrons have collapsed. Stupid gotten so dense that no intellect can escape. Singularity stupid. Blazing hot mid-day sun on Mercury stupid. You emit more stupid in one second than our entire galaxy emits in a year. Quasar stupid. Nothing in our universe can really be this stupid. Perhaps this is some primordial fragment from the original big bang of stupid. Some pure essence of a stupid so uncontaminated by anything else as to be beyond the laws of physics that we know. I'm sorry. I can't go on. This is an epiphany of stupid for me.

After this, you may not hear from me again for a while. I don't have enough strength left.

Just kidding. Friends? I kinda like your style, in a way. Wanna be BFFs?

Put your money where your mouth is Big Mouth!